Later, he is joined by former Director of National Intelligence under the Trump administration, John Ratcliffe. They discuss how his upbringing shaped his work view and values. John describes how his Notre Dame education and the legendary Lou Holtz influenced his path in life. Plus, he reveals why he made the switch from the private sector to public service, as well as reminisces on his friendships formed in Congress with Jason and former South Carolina Congressman Trey Gowdy.