On this episode, Kennedy sits down with Ultra triathlete, mountain climber, and CEO of the yogurt brand 16 Handles Neil Hershman to share his belief in perseverance and philosophy of min-maxing life.

Kennedy and Neil discuss his constant pursuit of interests in different stages of life, how persistence in endurance racing prepares one to overcome mental challenges, and the value of taking adventures to learn lessons outside of textbooks. Later, Neil shares his growth through his journey of mountaineering, which further shaped his strong mentality and led him to summit Mt. Everest.

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