Republican political strategist Michael R. Caputo sits down with FOX’s Eben Brown to discuss the ramifications of short-time Trump campaign manager Paul Manafort’s guilty verdict for tax evasion and the plea deal struck with the president’s former attorney Michael Cohen.

Caputo not only thinks these fail to provide any collusion between President Trump and Russian intelligence operatives, but that the whole investigation is tearing apart lives of those involved; financial ruin and social shunning have become facts of life for many people once even only tangentially involved in the Trump campaign.