Cliff May, Founder and President of the Foundation for Defense of Democracies, spoke to Brian Kilmeade about the phone call between President Trump and Vladimir Putin. May is disappointed and hopes President Trump and his advisors will recognize that Vladimir Putin did not negotiate in good faith. May said Putin wants victory and victory to him means Ukraine becomes either a colony or a vassal state. May believes in order to get to a better place than where we are now, President Trump needs to play the cards he has and put some serious pressure on Putin, or Putin will not give an inch.
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