The verdict is in: Sam Bankman-Fried was found guilty on all seven counts of fraud, money laundering, and conspiracy. Now, the FTX founder could face up to 110 years in prison.

White collar criminal defense expert and Partner at Cahill Gordon & Reindel, Sam Enzer, rejoins the podcast to explain how the law could make an example out of SBF with a long sentence.

He walks Kelly through the hurdles SBF’s defense team faces in appealing the jury’s decision, the likelihood of a life sentence for Bankman-Fried, and how the result of the case serves as a warning sign for bad actors in the crypto space.