On this episode, Ben sits down with former CIA Director and Secretary of State under President Donald Trump, Mike Pompeo, to discuss his new book, Never Give An Inch. Secretary Pompeo details why he believes China is the United States’ greatest geopolitical threat. Plus, he outlines the importance of the work he did on Iranian and North Korean nuclear proliferation, as well as preventing Russian President Vladimir Putin from invading Ukraine while President Trump was in office.

Secretary Pompeo explains what a new Republican president could do in 2025 to reform the careerist bureaucratic nature of the State Department and sheds light on whether he may be planning a run for the presidency.

Later, Ben discusses the recent birth of his second child and the importance of attentive parenthood.

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