Dana Perino, host of The Daily Briefing with Dana Perino, co-host of The Five, and former Press Sec to President George W. Bush, joined Fox News Radio's Guy Benson and Marie Harf to discuss the government shutdown hours before the deadline. 

On her take on the potential government shutdown:  Well it's a really terrible way to govern, to be honest and I do think that there should be a movement to go to a two year budgeting cycle because this is nonsense for everybody involved.  I find this story frustrating because there are so many other things to talk about and yet every Christmas we have to we have to do this. (3:07)

On what would be a fair agreement for both sides: I don't think the Democrats are in that mood. They're just going to hold firm. So, I don't know. I do think that the president has a lot to be able to talk about right now. Something that got buried yesterday that was a really big deal is the Secretary of Homeland Security Kirstjen Nielsen she is going to testify in from the House yesterday and she announces right beforehand that they have worked it out, that Mexico is going to be the place where asylum-seekers stay while they wait to be processed in the United States. (6:58)

On Mattis retiring on top of government shutdown: Just when everybody thinks this week is crazy, I've said that every Friday for three years.  It's crazy, but America is great. We're in good shape. These are the debates that we're having. We're having them out in the open and I think people can finish this year knowing that we are still the greatest nation that this world has ever seen. (8:20)

On her communications advice to this administration: I think that the President has handled this pretty well so far. He's pretty much said nothing about it and leaving it alone. I think Secretary Mattis served with distinction and integrity and dignity, and he resigned with distinction, integrity, and dignity. (9:48)