On Sunday Axios reporter Jonathan Swan, one of the beneficiaries of the constant leaking, wrote a piece all about why White House officials do it. He quoted a source saying "to be honest, it probably falls into a couple of categories. The first is personal vendettas. And two is to make sure there's an accurate record of what's really going on in the White House." Because so many White House aides and insiders are willing to be anonymous sources, the public has learned an awful lot about the inner workings of the White House. Barely a day goes by without a surprising or scandalous leak from the administration, be it about a powerful agency or the West Wing directly. So it's a constant source of tension between the press and the president.

Fox News Radio's Guy Benson & Marie Harf sat down with Jonathan Swan to get a closer look on the exhausting pace covering President Trump.


On figuring out what is newsworthy and what is gossipy: Most of the reporting I have done is to illuminate a policy fight internally. (2:15)

How many sources do you have inside the Trump administration: If you are talking about agencies plus White House...dozens. (3:33)

What is his insight on what motivates some to leak: People do it to settle scores all the way to things people see that are profoundly and morally long. Sometimes it the last chance to kill a policy idea of they have lost the fight at the table. (6:45)

Why is saying sorry verboten within team Trump: Not apologizing is the operating principle for Donald Trump according to a senior official Swan spoke with. (9:12)

On the environment impact within the White House: They are stretched incredibly thin...they are not properly staffed across the agencies and have a huge issue with trust. (10:17)