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Todd Starnes spoke with Travis Barham - Legal Counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom - about why a nursing graduate student at Colorado Mesa University was finally allowed to make religious references during her speech at its program's pinning ceremony.

Barham said, "These officials, like so many other officials, have misunderstood what the First Amendment means. They seem to think it requires them to purge any university ceremony of anything that is remotely religious. And in fact, the First Amendment does not require that. In fact, two federal courts of appeals have ruled that you can have prayers, clergy-led prayers at university graduation ceremonies, and it doesn't violate the First Amendment."

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