Aug 3, 2012
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Sen. Jeff Sessions, R-Ala., is demanding answers after a report surfaced that a U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement agent is facing punishment for arresting an illegal immigrant.
The unidentified agent could face a three-day suspension after he arrested a 35-year-old illegal immigrant from Mexico who had as many as 10 traffic violations. He was nabbed in Newark, Del.
The agent was ordered by supervisors to release the individual because he was not a “priority target.” When the officer balked, he was threatened with a three-day suspension and the illegal alien was let go.
“The actions that it appears were taken by your agency send a message to agents in the field that they will be punished for doing their duty and enforcing the law,” Sessions wrote in an letter to ICE Director John Morton and obtained exclusively by Fox News.
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A spokesperson for the Newark Police Dept. told Fox News that had an American citizen been stopped under the same circumstances – they would have been jailed. Sessions said that is a troubling revelation.
“Federal law enforcement should certainly not be giving illegal aliens more preferential treatment that is afforded American citizens,” Sessions wrote. “Your agency’s apparent treatment of the criminal alien sends the troubling message that the demands of public safety are trumped by the desire for reduced deportations of those deemed ‘not presidential priorities.’”
Also read: Immigration Agents Say Morale is “In the Toilet.”
Sessions is demanding that ICE provide a detailed account of the events involving the agent along with an explanation of why the illegal alien was released and allowed to pose a threat to public safety.
Word of the agent’s pending punishment for simply doing his job has outraged ICE agents.
“They’re punishing law enforcement officers who are just trying to uphold U.S. law,” said Chris Crane, president of the National ICE Council. Crane is a union representative acting on the unidentified officer’s behalf.
The officer under fire is an 18-year law enforcement and military veteran.
“They’re willing to take away their retirement, their job, their ability to support their families in favor of someone who is here illegally and violating our laws,” Crane told Fox News. “Right now (the Obama administration) is standing in the way of us enforcing the law by either taking a disciplinary action, threats of disciplinary action, or refusing to sign off on charging documents to put an illegal alien into immigration proceedings so a judge can sort it out.”
“If a law enforcement officer can’t perform routine enforcement functions, what do we have a law enforcement agency for,” Crane wondered.
Be sure to also read: ICE AGENTS: Obama Won’t Let Us Arrest Illegals
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Hmmmm. Interesting.
This a hateful and totally biased administration effort to recruit and register latino/hispanic voters as new Democrats.
It sound's like he was threatened with suspension for insubordination when he was told to release the suspect, not for the actual arrest.
Unless the arrest was made illegally–I'm not sure how anyone can tell a federal law enforcement officer to release someone (with the exception of a court). If this is allowed to happen–then it would mean his superior could break the law–and not be arrested just because his staff is ordered not to do it. Doesn't work that way. A police officer (or ICE agent) is given his power by the state (or city/county). It's done this way so that no one is above the law. A police officer in your city can arrest the Chief of Police (his boss) or the mayor for a crime. Bad things happen when people can be "unarrested" just because some supervisor says to do it.
David Cook Hello Daived, Don't listen to Sally. she is clueless to what immigration is supposed to be doing.
David Cook Hello Daived, Don't listen to Sally. she is clueless to what immigration is supposed to be doing.
Sounds like his supervisors are trying to use insubordination as the excuse for punishing him. The problem is, if the order he is given violates the law, then refusing to follow that order is not insubordination.
This is being done for millions of aliens. This country is being INVADED.A vote for obama and holder is going to send this country straight to h… .If the hair on the back of the white peoples neck isnt standing straight up then you arent paying attention.
Sally I have been reading these posts just looking for someone who is clearly in support of the current administration and daring to post a comment trying to find a way to justify any punishing this ICE agent. Your comment is both feeble and shameful.
You represent the ideal, ignorant and obediant citizen, straight out of George Orwell's Animal Farm, who will blindly follow their leaders, defending their behaviors all the way to your own slaughterhouse.
Animal Farm illustrates how ignorance and indifference to problems allow horrors to happen in an effort to create a smooth transition to a People's Government. You would be well advised to read it, even though it was written in 1945 it is even more relevant now than it was then. I encourage you to go to the library and check out a copy to educate yourself. It is considered one of the 100 best pieces of literature for a reason. Be warned, it is not a story about farm animals, it is an allegory: I sincerely hope you become self-consciously uncomfortable when you read about The Sheep.
Sally, keep whistling, it's getting darker and darker and you are very fortunate indeed that a great many of us will not sit by and defend the indefensable. YOU and your very exisitance, is supported by those of us who dare to question, become outraged, speak out and demand accountability!
Most of all, as a country we must make a CHANGE in the next election. For our very survival it is of vital importance.
It's not just "white" people Mr. Henderson, it's Americans. I am not "white" however, I am American and this disturbs me as much as it does you.
Really? You're not sure how a department can set policy as to which cases they prosecute and which cases they don't? You've clearly never worked in a law enforcement office. Technically, you can be arrested for jaywalking in most jurisdictions, but if a police officer does it, they will get in trouble because it violates department policy. They have more important things to worry about, and a police officer focusing on their own priorities rather than the priorities of the department will get in trouble. That's what the chain of command is all about.
Philip Creighton Releasing a low level offender is certainly not illegal, and is the policy of nearly every law enforcement department in the country. Are you insane?
Robin Leigh Nothing you've said responds to my point, even a little bit. I'm actually a republican, who is supporting Mitt Romney this fall. That doesn't mean I have to sit by while made up stories about nothing are passed off as real news.
This administration has exactly went after the white race.Any action holder has taken has been for the benifit of people of color. Obama has opened the borders for all of Mexico to transfer here. Obama has taken the people of color side in every issue he has encountered. He has divided this country along racial sides.His enactment of an exucitive order the other day for african youths was purely racial.I was born at night but it wasnt last night.
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Sally your rationalization of why the ICE agent may be punished can be attributed to following 'department policy' is pretty left leaning in my book.
I was justifiably concerned the subtlety (ha) of my analogy wouldn't penetrate.
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Sally your rationalization of why the ICE agent may be punished can be attributed to following 'department policy' is pretty left leaning in my book.
I was justifiably concerned the subtlety (ha) of my analogy wouldn't penetrate.
David Cook The department my husband works for fired an officer for repeatedly arresting individuals driving between 1-14 miles above the speed limit, after being told by his commander not to do so in writing 8 times. Even the union's arbitrator agreed the department had the right to fire that officer for insubordination, and their arbitrator never agrees with the department's discipline policies. You really think a department can't determine who to arrest and who to let go?
Robin Leigh Saying an officer can't be disciplined for insubordination sounds pretty left to me, it's the position my local police department's union takes all the time, no matter how many times we win at arbitration.
Who said an officer can't be disciplined for insubordination? I keep trying to tell you that there are instances where insubordination is VITAL to well-being of a free society! By your posts you evidently think we should all just 'bleet along'. I'm telling to use that brain God gave you and look at the whole picture, not the policy book.
People like you truly frighten me and that isn't hyperbole.
Robin Leigh Certainly there are time when insubordination is appropriate. Whether or not to keep an illegal immigrant in jail who has only minor traffic offences is hardly one of them.
How about the fact that he is here illegally and shouldn't be in the country in the first place? If you are here illegally, you should be deported. No more paperwork, other than try to get a "real" name, a picture for ID purposes and put on a bus back to whatever country you came from.
How about the fact that he is here illegally and shouldn't be in the country in the first place? If you are here illegally, you should be deported. No more paperwork, other than try to get a "real" name, a picture for ID purposes and put on a bus back to whatever country you came from.
Edna Gonzalez That's a departmental policy decision. Believe it or not, ICE doesn't have an infinite budget, they can't afford to deport every illegal immigrant they encounter.
Edna Gonzalez That's a departmental policy decision. Believe it or not, ICE doesn't have an infinite budget, they can't afford to deport every illegal immigrant they encounter.
Well Sally Paxton, we might have more money in the ICE budget if as a country we weren't giving so much money to illegal immigrants in services, not to mention sending lots of benefits to Mexico for people that don't even live here but are taking advantage of America's silly concept that we need to support people instead of making them responsible for themselves. So, to sum up, we can't afford to support the majority of illegal immigrants that come to this country. Let's start with that.
Edna Gonzalez That's all fine and dandy, but it's irrelevant to this story. Whether ICE should have money doesn't affect the fact that ICE doesn't have more money, and so they must make decisions about who to arrest and deport, and who not to. When an officer is told explicitly that the department is not going to prosecute or deport a low-level offender, that officer has a duty to follow what his commanding officer says. If it's a felony offender, or if there's some special reason for not following orders, that's something else, but that wasn't the case here. The suspect was a low level offender, and the officer should have followed orders. Don't follow orders, expect punishment.
Edna Gonzalez That's all fine and dandy, but it's irrelevant to this story. Whether ICE should have money doesn't affect the fact that ICE doesn't have more money, and so they must make decisions about who to arrest and deport, and who not to. When an officer is told explicitly that the department is not going to prosecute or deport a low-level offender, that officer has a duty to follow what his commanding officer says. If it's a felony offender, or if there's some special reason for not following orders, that's something else, but that wasn't the case here. The suspect was a low level offender, and the officer should have followed orders. Don't follow orders, expect punishment.
Edna Gonzalez No, do you have trouble with reading comprehension? I don't think the officer should be punished for arresting the illegal immigrant, I DO believe the officer should be punished for insubordination without good cause. My husband's department doesn't arrest motorists because it's a waste of resources in our mind, but we sure as heck will spend those resources to discipline an officer who disobeys a command. An officer that disobeys a command without a strong compelling reason (and a mere policy difference is certainly not a strong compelling reason) is a danger to the entire department.
Sally, if an ICE officer cannot arrest an illegal immigrant, then that whole department is not needed and the department should be let go or moved into another dept of government.
When this illegal alien now kills someone, everyone will be crying bloody murder as to why this guy was let go. At least the suspended officer covered his a$s in case that does happen.
Rich Mikolainis First of all, ICE is part of another department, DHS. Second, they can and do arrest illegal immigrants, millions of them every year in fact, it's just against their policy to do so with those whose crimes, besides illegally immigrating, are below misdemeanor level (traffic violations, in this case) because there are too many of those types of people, and the department can't handle all of that. Your argument amounts to "If xyz law enforcement department doesn't arrest criminals, they might as well not exist" when in fact, the law enforcement department does arrest criminals, just not one whose only crime is speeding. You really think a person whose only criminal history, besides crossing our borders illegally, consists of traffic violations is likely to murder someone? That's an unbelievably huge jump.
Sally, the immigrant had 10 previous traffic violations. So you are saying no one has ever been killed in a car accident before? Then guess what? The media will see the illegals record, and wonder why nothing was done to prevent it.
If your husband really is a LEO, he should know first hand then that most illegal immigrants laugh or have smile on there face when they get arrested for a traffic offense, as they know nothing will be done to them, even if they provide fake information to an officer.
What part of illegal are you questioning!
Sally..it is NOT insubordination to refuse to follow an unlawful order. Many crimes throughout history have been committed using the excuse "I was just following orders." I suspect if this agent refused to follow an order to unlawfully treat or detain this individual your view would be different.
Rich Mikolainis Yes, that's what I'm saying, that no one has ever been killed in a car accident before (rolls eyes), and a death in a car accident wouldn't be murder by the way, which is the word you used, if the death was a murder, it wouldn't be an accident would it?. I'm saying that ICE believes it has more important things to do, and that's their prerogative. My husband is the general counsel for our local police department (in other words, the lawyer), and he has to fight idiot officers who think they have the right to make department policy and override our elected sheriff. Rank and file LEO's don't make policy, and when they go out on their own and try to arrest low level offenders and put them in jail for smoking less than an ounce of pot or jaywalking or going 3 miles over the speed limit, the department has to pay for that, which means less money the department has for important investigations like murder or DWI or major fraud or actual drug trafficking. What is so hard to understand about that being dangerous?
Edward Loder How is declining to prosecute a low level offender unlawful? Are you freaking insane? Every single law enforcement department in the country does it. You think it's unlawful for a department to say "No, we're not going to arrest speeders, because we have better things to do"? Do you really believe that, or are you just upset because its a policy you disagree with, so your trying to make it into a bogus legal argument.
Actually, if he was drunk and killed someone, yes, they could get a murder conviction. Your husband works in law enforcement, remember?
Rich Mikolainis That would be manslaughter in nearly every state in this country, not murder.
And besides that, DWI is not a traffic violation in any state, it would be at least a misdemeanor and occasionally a felony, so he has not been convicted of that as far as the story says.
If you are getting technical, here is my original post:
"When this illegal alien now kills someone, everyone will be crying bloody murder as to why this guy was let go."
Where do i state murder, I stated if he killed someone in a traffic accident.
Actually, if you want to get technical, you don't say anything about traffic accidents until the next post. It's beyond me that this is your justification for why this officer should be allowed to disobey his commanding officer, because the illegal immigrant has "up to 10" traffic violations. You really think this illegal immigrant is so much more likely to kill someone because of that that insubordination is insignificant compared to deporting this guy? Do you believe that's a rational position?
Sally….first off questioning people's sanity is not productive to the conversation. Is it your contention that everyone who does not share your opinion is out of their mind? Secondly the federal world works differently than things at the local and state level so your comparisons to the department your husband works with are likely inaccurate. Third since your husband is a lawyer who's job it is to keep his bosses out of legal hot water I suspect neither he, nor you, understand the concept of what does and does not constitute a lawful order to people who actually put their lives in danger for a living. Fourth, perhaps you should ask your husband how his department would deal with a lawsuit resulting from the death or serious injury by this person who was allowed back on the street regardless if the damage was done in an "accident" or purposeful. Even money says they would scapegoat the officer who failed to make the arrest. Or maybe you should ask yourself how you would feel if this person got in a 4000lb weapon and killed your husband or your children and then you found out that it didn't have to happen. We aren't talking about a couple low level traffic citations. We are talking about an established pattern of disregard for the law and the safety of others. So how many violations of law are OK to commit before a person is arrested Sally? Had this person NOT been an illegal alien are you telling me that the officers in your husbands department would have let him go about his business? Do your husband and his department condone dereliction of duty? Every officer whether local, state, or federal takes an oath. As an officer of the court your husband took a similar oath. Can you quote that oath for me? I can. And I bet many of the people posting here can.
Edward Loder I'm sorry, but it's beyond me that someone actually thinks departments don't have prosecutorial discretion, despite the fact that that is well settled. Second, I've worked as a federal prosecutor, and I can promise you, for these purposes the issue is exactly the same. It is perfectly lawful for a commanding officer to decide not to prosecute a suspect. As soon as that commanding officer makes that decision, the suspect must be let go. That was true when I was a federal prosecutor, it's true now for my husband's department.
Can you point to a single case where a department was successfully sued for failing to prosecute a criminal who went on to commit crimes? If my husband's office got that complaint, he would file a FRCP 12(b)(6) motion to dismiss for failure to state a claim on which relief can be granted. You simply cannot sue for that. We have people all the time who have way more than 10 traffic violations that aren't arrested, none of them have come and killed my entire family yet. You're argument is completely specious.
Also Sally in response to a question you posed to another posting here: I would absolutely argue that this person is MUCH more likely than another person to cause an traffic accident. His multiple citations are in and of themselves evidence of this. Add to that the psychology behind a person who knowingly and willfully makes a habit of disregarding the law and faces no consequences for it, and then extrapolate from the known facts of the case that this person has received no training in the operation of a motor vehicle in the United States or in the applicable laws for said operation (i.e. NO DRIVER LICENSE) and it becomes patently obvious that yes, in fact, this person is FAR more likely to be involved in a motor vehicle accident resulting in the serious bodily harm or death of another innocent motorist. Were this NOT the case then you could save your husbands department, and the rest of the agencies in the country a whole lot of budget by disbanding their traffic enforcement divisions.
Also Sally in response to a question you posed to another posting here: I would absolutely argue that this person is MUCH more likely than another person to cause an traffic accident. His multiple citations are in and of themselves evidence of this. Add to that the psychology behind a person who knowingly and willfully makes a habit of disregarding the law and faces no consequences for it, and then extrapolate from the known facts of the case that this person has received no training in the operation of a motor vehicle in the United States or in the applicable laws for said operation (i.e. NO DRIVER LICENSE) and it becomes patently obvious that yes, in fact, this person is FAR more likely to be involved in a motor vehicle accident resulting in the serious bodily harm or death of another innocent motorist. Were this NOT the case then you could save your husbands department, and the rest of the agencies in the country a whole lot of budget by disbanding their traffic enforcement divisions.
Edward Loder Why do you think he faces no consequences for it? Do you have evidence to back up the fact that the illegal immigrant hasn't been punished for his "up to 10" driving violations?
Edward Loder Why do you think he faces no consequences for it? Do you have evidence to back up the fact that the illegal immigrant hasn't been punished for his "up to 10" driving violations?
So your argument is that if it hasn't happened to you or your family yet, it is not your concern?
So your argument is that if it hasn't happened to you or your family yet, it is not your concern?
Edward Loder I was ridiculing you. You honestly believe the likely result of letting go someone whose only criminal history is "up to 10" traffic violations is that the individual is going to kill my whole family? When has that ever happened?
Edward Loder I was ridiculing you. You honestly believe the likely result of letting go someone whose only criminal history is "up to 10" traffic violations is that the individual is going to kill my whole family? When has that ever happened?
Sally, firstly I am sad that your only response is to ridicule those with whom you disagree. Secondly I never suggested your whole family…I said your husband OR your children. I am quite certain that I could easily find cases where an offender who was allowed to skate on traffic charges went on to injure or kill another in an "accident". Third, you sound much more like a defense attorney than a prosecutor. Fourth, from your postings yes, I honestly believe that you think if it hasn't happened to you it must not be important or it must never happen.
Sally Paxton I noticed you failed to address most of my points. No matter. To your point: He obviously faced no consequences or those consequences weren't grave enough because he is a) still walking around free and illegally in this country and b) he continues to DRIVE!
Edward Loder You still haven't stated when this offender was allowed to skate on traffic charges. He was allowed to skate on an immigration violation, which technically isn't even a crime, it's a civil matter. Nothing in the article states that he got off on the "up to 10" traffic violations, you just made that up. Also, your "Fourth" response isn't a response to a question I asked, its an answer to a question you wished I had asked but hadn't, so the answer "yes" isn't really appropriate.
Sally you are being disingenuous. You know as well as I that if this person had been convicted on those ten traffic violations while not possessing a driver license he would have faced increasing penalties eventually leading to being classified as an habitual traffic offender and in some jurisdictions felony charges This would likely have led to jail time which would have flagged him on 287g and he would have already faced deportation. Unless you would like to argue that this had already happened in which case he either a)provided false information to federal agents or b) was an alien returning after deportation for a second time in which case he certainly would have met the criteria for supposed departmental priorities. You still haven't told me…and answer honestly if you can….do you really believe that if this person had NOT been an illegal alien he would have been afforded the same chances and courtesies?
Edward Loder False, that is completely false. Habitual traffic offender laws are almost always applied over a time frame, usually within three to five years. Do you have evidence that all of these offenses took place over three to five years? No. You're just making stuff up again. That's why I can't respond to most of your points, because they're based on made up facts that came from nowhere.
Edward Loder For reference, since he was found in Delaware, Delaware's law requires 10 or more moving violations within three years. If just one of his violations fell outside of the past three years, he couldn't be prosecuted under that law.
You are assuming found in Delaware means his violations occurred in Delaware. This would be something YOU are making up. Additionally since each citation would have been accompanied by a citation for driving without a license I suspect the law would differ on how often that needs to occur before one becomes habitual. If not then someone needs to take a serious look at their laws. As a former prosecutor you know as well as I that the law is NOT applied with equal weight to every individual. So I'll ask you again, do you believe the law would have been applied equally had this person NOT been an illegal? As you are a good person I suspect if the law were applied with an uneven hand in a way that was unfavorable to this defendant you would be the first to point out the injustice.
Edward Loder I didn't make it up, I never asserted that Delawares law applied, I was just using it as a reference, hence the "for reference." Quite frankly, whether the law is being applied equally is irrelevant, since ICE doesn't generally deal with legal immigrants, I'm not sure you'd have a good base sample to compare against. I don't have any support for or against ICE's policy of not deporting low-level violators. I'm only saying that ICE has the right to have this policy, and if an officer violates it, they should be punished for insubordination. That is the only assertion I have made, and you have yet to provide a viable reason why this should not be the case.
My reason remains as stated: The agent believed he was being asked to follow an unlawful order. In a country where we are innocent until proven guilty his superiors should have to prove the order was lawful before they can suspend him for insubordination. DO we really want to tell our law enforcement officers that doing their job based on their concern for public safety is likely to get them suspended? You and I have all the time in the world to arm chair quarterback and debate this in this forum, but on the street a split seconds hesitation while an officer considers what implication his actions might have on his career can get people killed. But if you haven't been there, you can't REALLY understand that down in your bones like these guys do. And nothing I say is going to change your mind. I've enjoyed our spirited debate. Enjoy the rest of your day.
Edward Loder No, you've still completely missed what happened, I don't know how you do that. This wasn't about the original arrest, this was about an order later to release the suspect. It's not a split second decision in the field, it's an order later by your commanding officer to release a suspect, I cannot think of a single situation in which an order to release a low-level suspect by a superior officer would be unlawful. That order is clearly legal, there's no indication it wasn't, there's no reason to think it wasn't. None. Nada. Zip.
No I didn't miss what happened. I am not suggesting the agent's decision at the time was split second. I am telling you that when faced with a split second decision in the field we shouldn't be saddling law enforcement personnel with crap to think about such as this. Because I am here to tell you if this guy is suspended for this, the next agent will hesitate, or the one after that. You want prosecutorial discretion? Let the agent make the arrest and let the offender go through the system and have a prosecutor or a judge make that decision. Problem solved.As a former federal prosecutor I imagine there were any number of cases you declined to prosecute for any number of reasons. Those decisions were part of what you went to school for, trained for, and were paid for. Let the agent do his job, and if he wants to bitch about the prosecutor later, fine. But telling an agent not to do his job is like yelling at your dog for barking and then being angry when he doesn't warn you about the burglar in your house.
The next agent should hesitate before disobeying an order by a commanding officer. That is all that this is about.
LOL you are just a "last word" kind of gal huh Sally? As I said nothing I say is going to change your mind. I never thought it would. But it was a good way to occupy my time. Makes me wish I lived in a border state. I could occupy my time watching illegals cross the border knowing we aren't going to do anything to stop them. Hell maybe I could introduce them to capitalism by selling them bottle of water for $10 a piece. Oh and a released illegal with prior traffic violations killing people in a crash? The following took me about 1.2 seconds to find: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2010/aug/2/illegal-immigrant-killed-nun-released-by-feds/?clear_cache_true
Sally Paxton I can send you plenty more where that one came from? How about the Houston PD officer who was killed in an accident with an illegal? I can send you one of a newborn killed as well. The list goes on. You asked "when does that happen?"? It happens all the time. Maybe this is what the agent was thinking about. Maybe he didn't want someone else's blood, perhaps a brother officer, on his hands because he didn't stand up.All it takes for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing. Oh I'm sure you will find all kinds of reasons (i.e. excuses) that this doesn't apply in this case. But they are cold comfort to the families of the victims of a policy that is both nonsensical and incoherent. So if I have to choose between an agent who cares about public safety or a bureaucrat who cares about policy…I'll take the agent every day and twice on Sunday.
Edward Loder So why don't we just arrest everyone in the country? There'll be a heck of a lot less murders in this country if we do that. There'll certainly be less road accidents. How about, from now on, anyone caught speeding does 20 years? Do you see why your arguments are completely specious yet? Your argument by anecdote makes absolutely no sense.
Edward Loder And your not going to change my mind because you refuse to present any reason, any reason at all, why it was ok in this instance for the agent to disobey a commanding officer. You just make up reasons like "he thought it was unlawful" without A) any proof that he actually thought that and B) a single case or instance where an order to release a low level offender by a commanding officer has be considered unlawful. You're just making stuff up, as usual.
Sally your arguments are hollow, the entire basis for the incident was a breaking of our laws; period. I can only assume you subscribe to the leftist point of views on our laws, as in, they only apply when it fits you. That attitude kind of sums up why we are in the shape we're in now and have the people we have running our country. What a shame, you seem to be intelligent….
Sally your arguments are hollow, the entire basis for the incident was a breaking of our laws; period. I can only assume you subscribe to the leftist point of views on our laws, as in, they only apply when it fits you. That attitude kind of sums up why we are in the shape we're in now and have the people we have running our country. What a shame, you seem to be intelligent….
any thing for a vote.
Are we going to put up with this crap and allow idiots to take us over, if so then stand by for the street war's in all our cities that will soon follow.
Then obama ( little CASTRO) can take us over as planed, under marshal Law.
Hmmm maybe when Obama was talking about a special police force –thats what he had in mind–because he is becoming the divider in chief– poor against rich, free loaders against workers, illegal against legal, blacks against whites, whites against blacks you know the man could of been a great great president, but he is turing out to be worst than Jimmy Carter ever thought of being
Feels more like the Soviet Union everyday under Obama.
Also to note. ACORN (or whatever they now call themselves) immediately registered the ILLEGAL alien to be able to vote over a dozen times this coming November 6th.
Scott
Hopefully the ICE agents will stand up to the supervisors and obamanation thugs and say NO, I will not let this criminal roam free and then call every news station, reporter or whomever to take that story and run with it. It will sure help throw this illegal criminal migrate loving administration out on their rear ends. Throw every illegal over the closest border and dare them to come back a second time. Second time, meet them with a loaded assault rifle and proceed as we should be doing with any alien invasion.
It is only for the mexican vote. once obama in again he gives a damn about the mexicans. Ice, stand up with arpaio against obama, napolitano, and eric holder. don' t bow down to them
AMEN SANDY AND AMEN TO THAT STATEMENT! I AM SICK OF ALL THIS CRAP FROM OBAMA AND HIS COHORTS. THEY DISGUST ME TO THE POINT OF I THINK WE SHOULD IMPEACH THIS IDOT AND GET MOVING WITH RIGHT MOVES TO SEND EVERY ILLIGAL BACK TO THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND MAYBE THEY WILL CLEAN UP THEIR ACT IN THEIR OWN COUNTRY AND LEAVE AMERICAN CITIZEN'S ALONE! MARY
Main Stream Media is in Obamas back pocket. Not one of them reports the truth anymore. Obama is the Anti-Christ. Expect a Muslim/Christian war if he is re-elected.
just goes to show this country is going to hell in a hand basket thanks to the President of these United States!
Its time to cut this agent some slack as he was fulfilling the job description of his job, unlike a certain big eared empty suit in the White House.
Well said Joel! I really like the last part too!
I guess after the illegal kills a pregnant woman in a mini-van or slams into a bus full of nuns then the agent will be the fall guy. I had a friend who was a sheriff deputy run off the road by a pick-up full of illegals with no tags get let while he was buried!
Those agents were the excape goat for Holder and the so called admin running the country now,,,, And the sad part is that for some stuoid reason the help is given to those that comit crimes, come here illegally, the thiefs get away and taken care of while the victims have lto pay double to live,, The old days, and other countries dont handle things they way the US does, a hand would be cut off, a eye for a eye, and dont let me get started on all the other stupid things that have been allowed,,, People have to wake up and get things back right,, voteing will help, but there is a long road to walk before we get back.
ARE YOU KIDDING? THAT IS SO SICK! O'MY DEAR GOD COME RESCUE US NOW FROM THIS SICK WORLD! WHERE IS JUSTICE GONE? OUT THE WINDOW WHERE OBAMA NEED'S TO GO OUT OF THIS COUNTRY AND LIVE IN KENYA OR MEXICO…..WE WOULD BE BETTER OFF WITHOUT THAT IDOT AS A NATION. WE NOW HAVE IT LEGAL TO KILL UNWANTED BABIES, HAVE GAY MARRAGE' AND WHAT THE HECK NEXT! MARY
so gay marriages are bad? i thought a government telling you what you can and cant do was bad.
so gay marriages are bad? i thought a government telling you what you can and cant do was bad.
@ Jim Munir, Gay "marriage" is not right as it doesn't fit into the correct description/intent of a "marriage". However, Gay 'Unions" are a different horse and one of the thousands of Lawyers in Washington should figure this out for crying out loud! We need to establish a new method of legalizing these "unions" so the Gays have a proper and legal way/contract to solidify and document their committment to each other as well as provide the benefits afforded "married" couples. This is a stupid battle of semantics not worthy of all the hate. This is typical problem of trying to fit a square peg in a round hole as seen in the birth of the stupidity of "Politically Incorrectness" instead of addressing the problem and correcting it. But, Mary has some good ponits, number one: Obama needs to go, he's a lying piece of work.
You are so convoluted in your own self-importance that you think the biggest issue facing this country is whether or not gays can marry? Get real. It is realistically so unimportant, that you really don't hear it being debated much by actual politicians. Hell even the ones on your own side only support it if it can get them a few votes, otherwise they oppose it. It would probably fall through the cracks and get passed if it wasn't seen as an attack on freedom of speech and thought and marriage. The proponents have taken the "accept and like it or face our wrath" instead of being satisfied with tolerance. The majority of people do not accept what it is that you do. They do not have to like it. They have to tolerate it only. In fact, aside from a few people, it is only an issue when you start attacking them. Look how many people showed up to support Chick-fil-a. What is more funny is that if gay people actually show up they will be forced to buy something or be asked to leave as they are taking up space from paying customers. I personally do not care if you want to do something with another guy.
I don't understand how anyone that is an "American" citizen cannot be completely upset at this report. Supporting Chick-Fil-A was great, how about we go to ICE Headquarters and demand an answer. This cannot continue in this country without major repercussions. Quit handling immigration with kid gloves, if you are here illegally you get no benefits, you are deported and have to start over. What part of illegal is not understood by this administration and other Americans?
IT IS UNDERSTOOD IT JUST ISNT RESPECTED. OBAMA HAS NO RESPECT FOR THE LAW. WHEN OBAMA WAS SCHOOLED IN THE ISLAMIC "MADRASS" IN INDONESIA HE WAS TAUGHT (AS ALL MOSLEMS ARE TAUGHT) YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO TELL AN INFADEL THE TRUTH, EVER. HE HAS NO RESPECT FOR THE PLEDGE, THE ANTHEM, ,( HE NEVER PLACES HIS HAND OVER HIS HEART) AND LIVES AS A MOSLEM IENO GIFTS AT BIRTHDAYS, CHRISTMAS ETC. HE IS A PHONY AND A FAKE.
IT IS UNDERSTOOD IT JUST ISNT RESPECTED. OBAMA HAS NO RESPECT FOR THE LAW. WHEN OBAMA WAS SCHOOLED IN THE ISLAMIC "MADRASS" IN INDONESIA HE WAS TAUGHT (AS ALL MOSLEMS ARE TAUGHT) YOU ARE NOT REQUIRED TO TELL AN INFADEL THE TRUTH, EVER. HE HAS NO RESPECT FOR THE PLEDGE, THE ANTHEM, ,( HE NEVER PLACES HIS HAND OVER HIS HEART) AND LIVES AS A MOSLEM IENO GIFTS AT BIRTHDAYS, CHRISTMAS ETC. HE IS A PHONY AND A FAKE.
HE CELEBRATED A MOSLEM DAY OF PRAYER IN D.C. AND THE CANCELLED THE CHRISTIAN DAY OF PRAYER LAST MAY.
We are rapidly devolving into a Third World country under Obama and the Democrats. When Federal Agencies begin acting on a political agenda driven by the President of the country, have we not become a dictatorship as apposed to a country guided by the law and the constitution. We are doomed as a country just by the fact that this kind of crap can even happen. How long till Texas secedes, I'm moving.
We are rapidly devolving into a Third World country under Obama and the Democrats. When Federal Agencies begin acting on a political agenda driven by the President of the country, have we not become a dictatorship as apposed to a country guided by the law and the constitution. We are doomed as a country just by the fact that this kind of crap can even happen. How long till Texas secedes, I'm moving.
Seems to me, that if a US citizen would have been jailed under these same circumstances, then had the ICE agent turned the detainee over to local police rather than letting him go, perhaps this illegal alien would be in jail now, waiting to face a judge for breaking ten traffic laws.
Seems to me, that if a US citizen would have been jailed under these same circumstances, then had the ICE agent turned the detainee over to local police rather than letting him go, perhaps this illegal alien would be in jail now, waiting to face a judge for breaking ten traffic laws.
Elections have consequences, hopefully people have figured that out now.
Not if they stack the deck before hand.
At the peril of the nation, it would appear the "management team" of the Democratic party would rather garner votes by these means, as opposed to winning within the arena of ideas. No wonder the nation is so polarized politically. It's ture evil.
Obama will be fired by election day. I totally regretted ever voting for a crook like him.
Most of us saw thru the B/S and didn't vote for him in the first place! But you can redeem yourself this November!
Count on it Robert E.!
Count on it Robert E.!
Good for you Thanh, we all make mistkes and we try to learn by them also. He did sound good in the beginning but he's sure is full of BS!
Ummm, I hate to point this out, but you can't really "fire" a president. Maybe you should do some reading-up before posting.
It this man was a white male he would be sitting in jail right now. Obama do anything and everything possible to get reelected, even if it means passing these types of laws to collect votes. Where is the outrage?
http://www.ice.gov/about/leadership/director-bio/john-morton.htm
Imagine that! He was chosen by the Democratic Senate in 2009.
I hope everyone in this administration burns in he11. If I, an American citizen got pulled over and was found to have a warrant because I failed to pay a speeding ticket, I would be arrested on the spot and taken to jail. I would remain there until I saw a Judge and/or paid the speeding ticket, plus further fines for failure to appear.
Illegal aliends have more rights and freedom in America than American citizens do. I hate to hate, but if Odumbo and Witholder had a heart attack, I would probably giggle.
I hope everyone in this administration burns in he11. If I, an American citizen got pulled over and was found to have a warrant because I failed to pay a speeding ticket, I would be arrested on the spot and taken to jail. I would remain there until I saw a Judge and/or paid the speeding ticket, plus further fines for failure to appear.
Illegal aliends have more rights and freedom in America than American citizens do. I hate to hate, but if Odumbo and Witholder had a heart attack, I would probably giggle.
The illegal alien was probably let go because he can't vote if he is in jail. But ICE can always get around that, by bringing voting machines into prison. The Democrats can be soooo inventive, when it comes to voting. Do you like my idea, DNC?
ICE has never been about protecting our borders. They have been wide open through Democrat and Republican administrations.
The powers that be in our country, the people who run both parties, want our borders to remain open because they want to destroy our sovereignty, our freedom, and our culture.
That will make it easier to integrate the country, formerly known as the United States, into the New World Order.
This ICE agent apparently thought his job was protecting America, now he knows better.
-Ken
Just outrageous and appalling. Outbama.
Yeah, we need real Republicans like Reagan (Amnesty I) and Bush (Amnesty II) to solve this problem. Fun fact: Which president first endorsed the DREAM act (hint, not Obama)?
Nice try Bruce! Trying to justify bad behavior!
Sorry Bruce, but pointing fingers is not going to solve the injustice of this situation.
Sorry Bruce, but pointing fingers is not going to solve the injustice of this situation.
We need our Republican leaders to do "WHAT EVER IT TAKES" to stop the destruction this administration is doing to our constitution and our "country"! Replace leaders in the depts. or what ever! This has to stop! This is the worst administration in the history of this Country! [and yes I know they're all explanation points!]
This is outrageous! Obama should be impeached for invalidating the laws made by Congress.
You hit the nail on the head…..We need our Republican leaders to do "WHAT EVER IT TAKES" to stop the destruction this administration is doing to our constitution and our "country"! Replace leaders in the depts. or what ever! This has to stop! This is the worst administration in the history of this Country!
Our "so called" President needs to be impeached and jailed. He is acting as a dictator and ignoring the constitution and the laws.
Obama is no more than a cheap whore. Selling out OUR country for a ILLEGAL VOTE and DOLLAR. If Obama was a born American citizen, and not a Kenyan, he may look at the USA a lot differently!
It's funny! The only real power we have is to post comments! We can say, "How outrageous" and "That's too bad!" But in the end it's all about the votes! And there's a lot of "poor" people that like the handouts they've been receiving! I fear for our country and our people! There's power in unity and as long as we have the "It's all about me" attitude there is no unity- there is no power! All we do is post our disgust as a comment! The day has come where evil is called good and good is called evil! The federal gov't was established to protect the citizens of this country- GOOD. Now it protects law breakers unlawfully present in this country.
- EVIL
They breed them, we feed them. The U.S. is becoming a combination of Mexico & Hiati.
Folks if this doesn't add fuel to the blazing fire and wake you up you all have to be dead from the neck up. Nov 6 is going to be a day of reckoning for the American people. If you do not get out and cast a vote against this guy we are doomed to fall in to a bottomless pit of debt, increased racial strife, and a European socialist society from which we will never recover. You know that the dead are going to awake long enough the cast their vote and $5.00 will buy a lot of democrat votes.
Remember this when you vote and get this UNAMERICAN President out of office!
wont matter. there will be an illegal alien going form booth to booth to vote him back in. and all there kin too.
wont matter. there will be an illegal alien going form booth to booth to vote him back in. and all there kin too.
talking and emails, and SMS are fine, but, if you don"t like the decay being hoisted on the United States of America bu the current joke of a government, then do something about it. Get with family, friends, coworkers, and anyone else who will listedn and act and do something about that big eared idiot in Washington and his cronies. email your Representatives, National, State, and local en-mass, and don't stop use SMS, call through the switchboard, and directly to their offices and let them know what you want done. without your input, it will be business as usual and nothing will get corrected, make sure they do the job they were hired for. Then in November, do your job and vote that jackass out of office. After all, this country is only as good as you make it.
Absolutely right Conrad! I keep hounding my Represetatives. I always hope they a least get a memo about my concerns.
its a sign of the times people, its evolution. Remember the American Indians? Looks like we legal immigrants will be nothing more then a statistic in a history book one day. I feel your pain. I wish it was different, but no one ever really talks about what IS going to happen in the future or now. Its like everywhere I read illegals are just a small story. When there not. I feel that our government is not doing enough. There not doing there job. It all feels so overwhelming. #1 thing I hate hearing, "they are doing the jobs that legals wont." in this economy I would gladly go and mow a lawn for 10 bucks. 2, there paying taxes. NO there not. they pay taxes on gum, and gas, but they do not pay income tax! they do not pay for the cops, the road, the firemen. our nations heros. There is a way people, there is a way for this to be fixed. BUT our government does nothing. Do not fine the people that hire them, arrest them for a week. no jobs, no problems, and I don't mean student visas or work visas. there fine and legal, and I don't mean Hispanics, I mean illegals of all nationalities. I wish someone just once could tell me why this is happening and why illegals are good for this country. END RANT
its a sign of the times people, its evolution. Remember the American Indians? Looks like we legal immigrants will be nothing more then a statistic in a history book one day. I feel your pain. I wish it was different, but no one ever really talks about what IS going to happen in the future or now. Its like everywhere I read illegals are just a small story. When there not. I feel that our government is not doing enough. There not doing there job. It all feels so overwhelming. #1 thing I hate hearing, "they are doing the jobs that legals wont." in this economy I would gladly go and mow a lawn for 10 bucks. 2, there paying taxes. NO there not. they pay taxes on gum, and gas, but they do not pay income tax! they do not pay for the cops, the road, the firemen. our nations heros. There is a way people, there is a way for this to be fixed. BUT our government does nothing. Do not fine the people that hire them, arrest them for a week. no jobs, no problems, and I don't mean student visas or work visas. there fine and legal, and I don't mean Hispanics, I mean illegals of all nationalities. I wish someone just once could tell me why this is happening and why illegals are good for this country. END RANT
Illegal immigration slowed down after the recession. Illegals do jobs that no one else does. This supposed ICE event was only reported on by FOX. Are y'all really that sure that this event even happened? They may not be paying income tax, but their employers are not paying their proper employment taxes either, and they like it that way.
Well it has finally arrived – Illegal Aliens have MORE rights than citizens. I am certain that no one would have let Ten tickets 'slide' if the 'perp' was merely a lowly subject of the government. I'm sure I couldn't get away with it, could you?
How many other laws are they exempt from? Can they speed? Drive without seat belts, drink and drive, ignore Stop Signs, run toll booths.. I'd like a list of the "special treatments" and extra rights/privileges they get as a result of their protected illegal status.
Well said – one other little fact that is being overlooked – the illegal alien was arrested because ICE Agents thought he was an OBAMA High Priority Illegal. Why – because he was in the High Priority Illegal's car. Ok won't the mistaken Obama High Priority Illegal Alien be reason enough to get his ass out of here along with the 10 traffic citations? But NOOOO – he needs to stay in our country long enough to commit some more crimes until he too can become an OBAMA HIGH PRIORITY ILLEGAL
Teresa McKeown – Obamas High Priority "VOTER" !!
Teresa McKeown – Obamas High Priority "VOTER" !!
REALLY;
LETS GET TOGETHER AS AMERICANS TO IMPEACH OBAMA,
HE IS NOT FULFILLING HIS OATH OF OFFICE BY UPHOLDING THE LAWS OF THE US OF AMERICAN.
HE IS FAVORING THE LATINOS,
DREAM ACT; WILL BE FREE FOR THE LATINOS, THEY WERE RAISED WITH OUR OWN MONEY, AND STILL ALL THEIR EDUCATION WILL BE PAID,
MY DAUGHTER IS AMERICAN, CAN NOT GET INTO COMMUNITY COLLEGE, BECAUSE SHE IS AMERICAN LATINOS HAVE ALREADY PREFERENCE IN OUR OWN SCHOOLS.
i AS AMERIACAN HAVE BEEN WORKING FOR 32 YEARS, AND OUR AMERICAN CHILDREN DO NOT HAVE ANY BENEFIT,
PLEASE PUSH FOR E- VERIFY, FOR EMPLOYERS, STOP ALL THE BENEFITS FOR THE ILLEGALS, STOP CANCEL THE DREEAM ACT, AND GIVE THIS OPPORTUNITY TO OUR AMERICAN CHILDREN.
The supervisors should be fired.
Obama, Holder and Napolitano should all be held in contempt for failing to uphold Federal Law, making unConsitutional Decisions and policies in total disregard of the law and should be tried in Federal Court for sedition and treason.
This is why the useless bitch in the White House has to go! This no good piece of crap is ruining this country – send his ass packing!
obuma needs fired and all his leftist followers or tag alongs or brown nosers. We need someone with balls to lead this country, not someone who is so weak and thin skinned as this thing there now. I respect the office, but not the monkey there now.
I knew this was coming. It's only going to get worse if Obama gets another 4. This is DISGUSTING! How can we show our support for ICE agents? Any ideas?
It is treasonis to not protect the USA from foriegn invaders close the borders.
Obama keeps going down the same trail and unfortunately there are some blind enough to follow his tracks. "Three Blind Mice" could translate to millions not willing to do t he right thing and oust this arrogant.
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We have a rogue executive branch that is running amok, trampling law, order, constitution, and OUR RIGHTS as it stampedes toward setting up a DICTATORSHIP in the United States of America! We can not allow this to happen! When are our elected congressmen going to stand up for impeachment of this megalomaniac?
Senator Sessions , you and the entire Congress of The United States should be punished for this one. First you Congressmen heap on a layer of government and give it a title and some job such as this catch all Department of Homeland Security , then you throw money at it and turn it loose upon America , and you pat them on the back for every new hair brain rule and regulation that they dream up or however ideas come to them. Then Congress says it has no direct control over what this rogue department does , and you Congress guys have to seemingly beg to ask your Departments or Czars what they are doing , and why they are doing it. And these Czars , Agencies and Departments tell you it is none of your business. Congress , it is high time you cut these footloose and rogue Agencies and Departments down at the knees. Remember We the People elected you to CONTROL all of Government in our name and with our tax dollars. Instead Mr Sessions , here is your/our employees telling the BOSS CONGRESS where to shove it. Mr Sessions , the problems are not with a gun running operation gone bad and a ICE officer not obeying orders , No Mr Sessions , it is Congress not being in absolute fist around neck control of any or all of the appointed federal government Agencies and Departments.Mr. Sessions this is much like when Congress blames bad child behavior because of absent parents. If these Agencies , Czars, Departments don't walk the line and obey Congress Mr. Sessions , haul in the Czars , Heads or what ever and ring their necks and throw them out of the building face first into Pensylvania Ave and tell them go get a job filppin burgers and don't come back to Washington D.C. Please Mr Sessions , get Congress to get ahold of what We the People have elected you to do on our behalf , and get order back in Washington D.C. Thank you for your good work and efforts. MJ Dallas, Tx
Shame on Jeff; he's not allowing King Obama to play dictator.
And did anybody watch the "new job numbers" closely? 163,000 jobs added but unemployment only goes down in one sector. Latino by 1%. They're counting a huge influx of early harvest workers as part of the obamessiahs "big success". Maybe they'll start counting paperboys and lemonade stands.