Jul 6, 2012
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A Phoenix man has been sentenced to 60 days in jail after he refused to stop hosting Bible studies in the privacy of his home – in violation of the city’s building code laws.
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However, the Phoenix city prosecutor’s office said the violations have nothing to do with religious freedom — and everything to do with public safety.
“It came down to zoning and proper permitting,” said Vicki Hill, the chief assistant city prosecutor. “Any time you are holding a gathering of people continuously as he does — we have concerns about people being able to exit the facility properly in case there is a fire — and that’s really all this comes down to.”
According to court documents provided to Fox News Radio, Michael Salman was found guilty in the City of Phoenix Court of 67 code violations. He was sentenced to 60 days in jail along with three years probation and a $12,180 fine. He could be jailed as early as next week unless the U.S. Ninth Circuit Court of Appeals grants an emergency injunction.
“They’re cracking down on religious activities and religious use,” Salman told Fox News Radio. “They’re attacking what I as a Christian do in the privacy of my home.”
“If I had people coming to my home on a regular basis for poker night or Monday Night Football, it would be permitted,” he said. “But when someone says to us we are not allowed to gather because of religious purposes – that is when you have discrimination.”
The Salman Family
However, the Arizona courts consistently ruled against Salman – ultimately declaring that he was engaged in church activities and that the city did not violate his constitutional rights to religious freedom.
The long-running feud between Salman and the City of Phoenix culminated in the summer of 2009 when nearly a dozen police along with city inspectors raided their home. Armed with a search warrant, police confined the Salman family to the living room as they combed the property looking for violations.
Salman is the owner of Mighty Mike’s Burgers — and he is also an ordained pastor. He and his wife have been hosting Bible studies on their 4.6 acre property since 2005. The gatherings were originally attended by as many as 15 people.
Hill said the city became aware of the meetings after neighbors apparently complained about traffic congestion.
In 2007 they received a letter from the city informing them that the Bible studies were not permitted in their living room because it was in violation of the construction code.
A few months later, members of the Phoenix Fire Dept. broke up the family’s Good Friday fellowship. As many as 20 people were in their backyard eating a meal when firefighters threatened to call the police – unless their guests left the premises.
“Immediately after that, we decided to contact an attorney,” Salman told Fox News Radio. “The city emphasized that bible studies or church-related activities are not permitted on residences because you have non-family members coming to the home and such use is considered church use.”
In the summer of 2008 firefighters once again broke up a gathering – and Salman finally reached his breaking point. He ordered the firefighters to leave his property.
“We told them they had no right,” he said. “They had been harassing us since February. This is our home. We are a private gathering. This is Christians gathering on my private property.”
The city ignored the Salmans until 2009 – when they built a 2,000 square foot building in their backyard. Salman said he applied for and was granted the proper building permits. He also said the building has passed a city inspection.
“At that point we took our Bible study from our living room – and we moved it into that building,” he said. “We started worshipping in that building every weekend.”
However, Hill said Salman has “mischaracterized the facts” of the permit. She said he was given a permit to convert a garage into a game room.
“Any other occupancy or use – business, commercial, assembly, church, etc, is expressly prohibited pursuant to the city of Phoenix building code and ordinances,” she told Fox News Radio.
On June 11, 2009, the Phoenix Police Dept. showed up with a search warrant. When they had completed the search, Salman was charged with 67 code violations.
He was charged with not having emergency exit signs over the doors. He was charged with not having handicap parking spaces and not having handicap ramps.
“Imagine everything that a public building would have or a commercial building would have,” he said. “Anything we didn’t have was a violation.”
The largest source of contention has been whether or not Salman is running a church. He insists it is not.
But his building certainly resembles a church. It has chairs for as many as 40 people. There is a pulpit. There’s a sign out front – along with a cross.
“Just because visitors come to my home three times a week and we discuss the Bible – if that’s their definition of a church then so be it,” he said.
“At what point does the government have the right to state that you cannot have family and friends over at your home three times a week?” he asked. “People have a right to gather on their property as long as parking is available, as long as they aren’t parking in the street, as long as they aren’t violating noise ordinances.”
Hill said the facts are clear.
“He built a structure that he said wasn’t a church — that is in fact — a church,” she said. “It’s a church.”
And the courts agreed — noting in a Jan. 4, 2010 ruling: “The state is not saying the Salmans can’t run a church or have worship services at the location. But the state is saying that if they do so, they must do it properly and in accord with fire and zoning codes.”
Salman’s attorney has filed an appeal with the federal court – and unless they intervene – Salman will start serving his sentence on July 9.
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Getting ready to start a home church in a gated community that has banned church buildings. Wonder if I am facing the same problems.
No, it's fine. Do whatever you want, because you're Christian.
No i will follow the rules of the community even if when it means to grow we find a location outside the gates. My battle isnot against the people who wants those kind of restrictions but the system that gave them that mindset.
Thank you. We all have to obey the law, whether we like it or not. If you don't like the law, you could always try to change it. Then again, you state you're in a gated community that you chose to live in, so that sort of changes your platform. "Render unto Caesar…"
Also, this guy collects money and is a registered non-profit, on top of being a repeat felon for conning people and for a driveby shooting. He's just another wolf in sheep's clothing.
Getting ready to start a home church in a gated community that has banned church buildings. Wonder if I am facing the same problems.
The modern church has allowed the building to be defined as the building not the people. A church is not a public place it was meant for believers and has the right to say who can and cannot be there. Unlike a business which cannot discriminate si easily. That is not meant to be rude but read Matthew 18 Jesus meant the church to be those coming together who agreed on beliefs. Ps the flip side to this story if people got hurt due to code violations how many would be griping
The modern church has allowed the building to be defined as the building not the people. A church is not a public place it was meant for believers and has the right to say who can and cannot be there. Unlike a business which cannot discriminate si easily. That is not meant to be rude but read Matthew 18 Jesus meant the church to be those coming together who agreed on beliefs. Ps the flip side to this story if people got hurt due to code violations how many would be griping
I love how the Salman Cult is just so harping on all these religious things. The city/state really is not in some giant stupid conspiracy to prosecute the poor misunderstood christians. It's about permits and zoning codes.
I would like you to notice the statement of the Assistant Chief Prosecutor for the City. As long as we were using the building as a Gameroom we are O.K. It is when we start using it to host worship with our friends it is wrong. And that is how it should be. You have a permit to have a Gameroom, so if you want to use the building as a gameroom, that is your right. You do NOT have a permit to build a church, so using that building a church IS NOT YOUR RIGHT.
Stop trying to cry about how you are being victimized for your religion. Get the stupid permits already, like you should have done in the first place, like EVERYONE ELSE is required to do and I doubt you'll have any more problems.
Contrary to what you zealots think, the entire world does not sit in awe and wonder of you and your religious beliefs.
You are going to jail simply because you think you are a special snowflake who does not have to comform to the same laws as everyone else. Hate to break it to you, but your religious laws ARE NOT ABOVE the laws of man and society.
Charlez Kenshol His own (alleged) religion even says to obey the laws of man.
I've noticed that, in religion like this, the bushwacking zealots generally have their own interpretation on what the rules are of their religion.
I live on this idiots street,he is a convicted felon trying to escape taxes,and many times per week I cannot even get to my house,he should have to build a small parking lot.he lives right by a park I mean come on a hole be considerate
For him to have a commercial (and that includes churches) on his property, he would have to provide off-street parking for them PLUS he would have to get permission from each neighbor, which he clearly has not done.
I dunno why my phone put felon,I don't think you are I just think your really rude and inconsiderate.you have a house in front of your church,build a place for people to park so I can get home easily.
He is a felon. He even went to prison for a drive-by. He's also a known con artist. Did you know he had the 'church' registered as a non-profit? The information is actually posted on this thread somewhere.
WHAT WERE THE JUDGES THINKING? Constitution 101.
After reading the entire article I must saddly say that both sides are right and both sides are wrong. However, I find the Pheonix authorities actions excessive and (though they seem to deny it) motivated by seeking to keep Christians from practicing their religious beliefs. I grew up attending home Bible study groups and never had a problem with it. Many of today's churches have grown out of home bible study groups. Sad to think what God must think of this nation and how He will punish us for the turn from Him that we have allowed our local, county, state, and national government officials to take daily.
Lisa, how is the city wrong? Can you explain your logic in this? Michael did not do his due diligence with the city. They took action after neighbors' complaints. It is NOT ABOUT a home Bible study. It is about a registered church meeting without permission in a residential zone. Plus Michael was deceptive with the city as to the use of the building. This is NOT about the Christians vs the lions. It is about one deceptive person hollering "victim" and stirring up trouble. Last time I heard "bearing false witness" (a.k.a. lying) is one of the basic "shall nots" in the 10 commandments. Uh, yup, ::checking:: it's still right there in black and white.
I think it was not the legalities involved it was the government taking the stand against an organized meeting where christians were worshippping God- there are lots of loopholes in today's legal system but I for one would not want to meet Jesus at the Pearly Gates knowing I had disbanned one of his- just because it was not what the neighbors agreed with. Apparently the authoriities decided to take agressive action instead of a sit down, talk it out, compromise and even assist in the corrections of the issues. Enough said………
me, myself and I am are thinking about starting a Bible study at my home……..
Look into this guy a bit more. He's a con man. Just google a bit. Trust me. It'll be worth it. He's a scumbag.
Enough said? So that gives you the right to make the last pronouncement? If I were Michael, I wouldn't want to be standing at the Pearly Gates with my record of criminal activity, fraud and deception — yet you back his position completely and damn the city. I understand more every day why the Bible used the analogy of "sheep" for Christians. You'll follow anyone, believe anything, pander after anything, never once applying reason to the situation. It's all about emotionality and your special rights as Christians. Loopholes — everybody wants one.
Debra T Shehee You are more than welcome to have a bible study. As is Michael Salman. This is so much more than bible study. He has everyone fooled by claiming all he's doing is innocent bible study. At one point his plans called for 3 separate buildings, over 100 people 2 or 3 times a week, day care, and bible camp. His plan was to have an entire church complex. He has changed his story to get sympathy, and obviously it has worked by the comments on this article. None of the truth is coming out in these articles or the stuff he posts. Luckily the city has seen through his games.
Debra T Shehee You are more than welcome to have a bible study. As is Michael Salman. This is so much more than bible study. He has everyone fooled by claiming all he's doing is innocent bible study. At one point his plans called for 3 separate buildings, over 100 people 2 or 3 times a week, day care, and bible camp. His plan was to have an entire church complex. He has changed his story to get sympathy, and obviously it has worked by the comments on this article. None of the truth is coming out in these articles or the stuff he posts. Luckily the city has seen through his games.
If you go to his YouTube videos and look at the comments, you see defenses from this congregation which liken this church to the Branch Davidians and compare code enforcement to the FBI/ATF. That's from the people who GO TO the church. That's pretty scary, too. I don't see what's so charming about him, but apparently he's a very convincing con man. He was trying to build a "Branch Davidian like" compound. Scary!
Thanks Mike for the kind explanation- you must walk close to the righteous side of life- I followed the Fox news channel updates and it appears all was not reported- again thanks for the kind explanation.
What really bothers me about all of this is not the fact he was found guilty. It is the sentence and fines. How many Movie stars get arrested for DUI and other such crimes and spend only a few hours in jail. We also never hear how much fines they may pay but I bet its no where near what Salman may have to. Brace yourself Christians the persecutions are just starting.
You're right about movie stars, but this guy fought the law for 8 years, all the while having a registered non-profit at his house, making money off the operation. He's been repeatedly arrested for cons like this, including churches whose coffers he has robbed. This man is not a victim or a Christian. He also went to prison for a drive-by shooting. Do a little research and you'll see what I mean.
We here in S.C are praying for you and your family, This will be used for Gods Glory! This is a blatant violation of your constitutional rights! I'm sickened and disgusted that our Country is allowing this to happen! God will vendicate you, don't you worry. He will use this as a witness to the truth of his word. This I believe is the start of what the early church experienced. Stay stedfast in the faith and don't bow down to the system of corruption. The devil is on the job. He knows his time is short! He's doing everyting he can to decieve people and keep them in the dark. They call eveil good and good evil. This is the last days my brothers and sisters! We must keep our hearts pure before God. Look up for our redemption draws nigh! God speed to you and your family. I will get as many signatures to your petition as I can and tell your story to everyone that will hear. Don't forget to call ACLJ they can help you. Jay Seculo..[ I think that's how you spell his name] has been a good lawyer in these types of situations. Appeal it to the highest court. Don't let them intimidate you. Know your rights. This is violation of religious freedom and right to property. The city where you live and the people over this are full of the devil! They are decieved! God is not mocked! Whatsoever they sow they will reap. Pray for their souls that they come to know Christ as you have. It is his will that you walk in forgiveness towards them and speak only what the Holy Spirit has you say. It does not mean you don't stand your ground. On the contrary you are citizens and have rights. Fight them based on the principles of the constit.
Research this con artist a bit more closely. The last church he scammed landed him in prison.
Well Mr.Thomas I dont know what beliefs you hold too, but by looking at your Avatar I.E. goat ears and horns behind the face with Hail..S.. cant read the rest. Im assuming your los,t and dont know Jesus Christ as your personal Lord and Savior. Because if you did you would not have that as your " Icon " So for me to assume you know what your talking about would be for me to assume your not lost and in need of a Savior.
it looks like the Babylonia god of lust just look at it they look the same
Matthew: I'm pretty sure you can read the rest. It says 'Hail Sagan'. It's a parody of how afraid of the real world and science religious people are. It pokes fun at how some Christians see science as "evil", until they need a doctor, a cell phone, or the interrnet. This page is an excellent example of the fantasy you people live in. I'm not "lost". I don't believe in fairies, Santa Claus, the Easter Bunny, Jesus, etc. You have imaginary friends who live in the sky and I'm "lost"? Arrogant much?
Jose: It's just like Babylon? This guy's a con artist. I suppose nobody should do anything about con artists as long as they're "Christian", right? I've never met such a bunch of pompous self-entitled cry-babies in my whole life. You're not persecuted, you're the majority. Grow up.
Matthew Trabue
"So for me to assume you know what you're…" So, if somebody's not a Christian and they speak the truth, you'll believe a lying pastor instead of using Google? What a pompous scumbag.
Is there anyone out there that can forward the email or physical address of the city council of these moronic idiots so I can write them and all others that see the address also write to these morons?
Maybe you should check into this story a bit more before you look like an idiot.
Are you one of the aforementioned councilpersons? Tell me what is in the story that would cause you to post your comment, so I can, at the least, defend my position on this incident.
Please elaborate.
I am not one of the council persons. This case was brought to my attention because of supposed 'discrimination' by a Christian friend of mine. He asked me to look into it to see about helping this guy. When I looked into it, I found out he has a registered church at his home, he just spent six years in prison for a drive-by shooting, he had these same problems in California, he intended to start a full Koresh-style compound, he's a convicted con-artist who lives in a half million dollar house (that's a lot in AZ) on church money and stolen credit card technology. Nevermind the runon sentence; just scroll down and read. Most of the links are posted already (many times now), so I don't want to keep posting them. I'm an atheist and often at odds with Christians, but this makes me angry that he's lessening the attention of actual persecuted Christians, Jews, Muslims, atheists, and others with his con-game. If you have any questions, can't find the info, or need more info, feel free to message me on FaceBook. i just don't want to keep posting the same stuff, and have people feel like I'm spamming. Thanks.
My apologies if I sounded gruff. I can't say I'm an active religious person, but I do believe in a higher power, just not as portrayed in any organized religion. As you said, there has been a great deal of govt interference in the practice of religious freedom. The article depicting his trying to do nothing more than bible study is as skewed as much of today's media. We should be hammering on them as much as on Michael. I very much appreciate your civil response and thank you for your comments.
No problem. I try to keep my cool, no matter how frustrating it gets. It's an emotional topic, for sure, so I can see where people get pretty worked up. I"m just trying to get the truth to people. Some people don't want it, and that's fine, but for those who do, I want to make sure they get it.
some body should tell the people of phoenix there is a consitotion and the right to freedom of religion is in it
Way to miss the point. This guy set up a church to get money, lied on his paperwork, built a branch-Davidian style compound, put up a building with two little doors on the front for up to 60 people to occupy, etc, etc. He's a convicted conman, not a "poor Christian being discriminated against". Nobody's taking his freedom of religion. They're taking his freedom of being a conman with no regard to the safety of parishioners in his registered church facility.
I can certainly understand the frustration. I do have a philosophy of not making a judgement about an issue until I have researched the facts about that issue or situation. Unfortunately, I let my emotions get in the way on this one. I'm still researching this situation and don't know the facts, so I will refrain from comment until I know what is really going on. There is likely others that haven't looked into what is truly going on with Michael Salmon. If he is as the media is representing, then he has a problem. On the other hand, if he is merely holding bible study, for a few friends and family, then the city has a problem!
Is there anyone out there that can forward the email or physical address of the city council of these moronic idiots so I can write them and all others that see the address also write to these morons?
First of all, Why are so many people hating, It is clear from the testimony of the prosecutor that the CHURCH or GATHERING was the Target, If the enemy was a Christian then I would say okay lets listen, But she is clearly not a Christian and they were only concerned with the 12 thousand dollars, If the federal government didn't label him a REBEL or a TERRORIST then she would not have suceeded, Christians are a dying race and every real christian knows it, Many people come to god and very few stay, Its written clearly in the bible. All the haters on here want to discuss blah blah blah, Truth be told City Codes are not their for any other reason than CONTROL, Its so simple, They don't care about safety, they follow the Agenda 21 to the T in Arizona. As do most states, But I say get the money together make it a church officially, Its no good to let them win, when you can just play the game and win yourself, The reality of it is that the people they are attacking are a small group with less power, Look at what they did, And then look at the building code violations they ignored, JUST LOOK AT THE CITIES GOVERNMENT BUILDINGS, Many are exempt from many codes? Why is that? The rules are not for the rulers!
"Give unto Caesar"???? Jesus payed the temple tax, too. I think the holy bible is pretty clear on this one.
And if he didn't pay he would have been what ? Killed way sooner interrupting his mission, Go along to get along.! Don't quote portions of the bible out of context, read the whole story before you ramble your chatter. Most Christians now are just Satan Worshipers in disguise, The bible is very clear about what is happening and if he was fined because of bible study its a simple violation of a constitutionally protected right ? The killing has already started, All you have to do is look around you. Murder does not shock the Nation anymore ! Learn your historical facts, This should not have happened to him, Since then i have furthered reviewed the situation, This is a very old battle between a Satanic Prosecutor and a Not so Gentle Christian. The facts are clear, She has been overstepping her bounds because she is involved in corruption. Its very simple, Whether people believe in God or Lucifer or not the fight will continue and many lives will be lost and idiots will babble about nothingness on the internet even as i do. LMFAO !" Kill em all, Let God sort em out !" Hence the conclusion we are facing.
Nicholas Allen If it were bible study, I'd agree with you. However, he has had a non-profit organization (church) registered at his 'house' since 2001. That's not just bible study. That's a church. Or you could check out his CHURCH website or CHURCH YouTube channel. Or you could check out his criminal record, including CHURCH scams. Or you could see that he lives in a 500,000 house off of money he gets from this church. Or you could just spout nonsense without actually knowing what's going on, because Fox news won't give you the real story, because they want to cause division and strife for profit. Google "Mike Salman" and get the 'rest of the story'. I feel like I should post a blog up about this guy as much as I find myself repeating this information. By the way, did you just say the Christian Bible doesn't tell us to obey the laws of man? The Bible I read teaches us that Jesus said to obey the laws of man. I guess only you get to cherry-pick, right?
LOL, Your right, I dont have any idea whats going on, But thanks to my spouting off i have been more enlightened. And you never know what to believe on youtube or the Media, And your right, The bible does teach us to obey laws of man, Only when they dont interfere with the laws of god or the bible but, I guess as we as a society try to become civilized we end up in a commotion about this stuff that may be one way and not the way we percieve it to be, If you know the truth about anything i say speak it out, I will view your blog and if its factual i will also tell people so. I guess for the majority of people its all just entertainment. I would hope that he is not a scammer and using the church, Thats just wrong. Can you post the links with some evidence, I am always interesting in hearing all angles and hoping to get the truth out of it lol.
Charles Thomas And honestly, If he was not harming anyone, I am against Jail for non violent offenders, Our prison system is based on non violent crimes, And their is exceptions, Like if the non violence causes violence, BUT IT WAS A CHURCH, Come on how bad can that be !
Am I reading the same article as you guys? I'm an active Christian but totally disagree with this guy. He had no jail time until he built a building by lying about it's use to the codes dept (it's not a game room) and than over reaching the occupancy allowed at a residence. I have a friend who has huge parties at his house every weekend (50+) the city approached him after receiving neighbor complaints and he got his great room rezoned as a "dance hall" and added exits with signs, parking, noise control devices and the whole bit. He didn't claim harassment he just acknowledged the laws and followed them. Shame on this guy for dragging Christs name into his bull headed fight against the laws of the country he chooses to live in.
My only observation is that they were fine with the garage being a game room.
If the same amount of people used that game room as a game room, would it then need to be zoned as an arcade? If he tossed a poker table in there and the same amount of people played poker there, would it need to be zoned as a casino? If he had a TV in there, and the same amount of people watched movies in it, would it need to be zoned as a theater? If the same amount of people had nachos in that room, would it need to be zoned as a resturant? If the same amount of people went and got a beer out of the fridge that may or may not be in said room, would it need to be zoned as a bar? If the same amount of children had a sleepover in that room, would it need to be zoned as a motel?
I can go on…
Excatly.
It was for "non-commercial" use, Luke Sanders. If people came and bought nachos, and paid money to see a movie three nights a week in droves, yes. Yes, he would be having the same problem. Apparently you're not aware that he has a "church" registered at his address so he can collect money as a nonprofit, which he pockets. Or that he's been to jail for ripping off churches and doing a drive-by. Or that he's an ordained minister who has a website asking for donations. Or the billboard and giant cross out front. Or maybe you would just rather live in a fantasy world where Christians (80% of America) are 'persecuted'.
Did I say anything about persecution? Did I even say anything about Christians? Don't think that because my facebook profile says I'm a Christian that you know exactly what I'm saying or what I'm fighting for.
It may surprise you to know that I actually think he should go to jail for a little while. Know why? If not then you don't know quite as much about Christianity as you seem to think you do. Apparently, you're wanting to push an argument into areas where it was never going to go. Or maybe you would just rather live in a fantasy world where no religion is ever "persecuted" for this idea is completely foreign to you.
Did I say anything about persecution? Did I even say anything about Christians? Don't think that because my facebook profile says I'm a Christian that you know exactly what I'm saying or what I'm fighting for.
It may surprise you to know that I actually think he should go to jail for a little while. Know why? If not then you don't know quite as much about Christianity as you seem to think you do. Apparently, you're wanting to push an argument into areas where it was never going to go. Or maybe you would just rather live in a fantasy world where no religion is ever "persecuted" for this idea is completely foreign to you.
Then why are you making excuses for him? If you think Christians who make up over 80% of the population are being persecuted, it is you who live in a fantasy world. If you look at some of my other posts you'll see I wrote QUOTE[THERE ARE ACTUALLY CHRISTIANS BEING PERSECUTED IN THIS WORLD!!! SHAME ON YOU FOR BRINGING YOUR PETTY CRAP INTO THIS AND LESSENING THEIR PLIGHT WITH YOUR BULLSHIT!!!] The point is, I know what it is like to be truly persecuted. I know what it's like for it to be illegal to hold office or testify in court because of what you (don't) believe. I know what it's like to live where you go to jail if you don't pray at the city council meeting (Kannapolis, NC, sadly). He is NOT being persecuted, nor are ANY Christians in America. You are the majority, for Christ's sake.
Well, I wonder what happened ? Charles Thomas has made some serious claims about tha rev. Any updates?
Did you read all the posts here? There were plenty of sources linked. If you really want to know, follow the links.
I looked til I fell asleep, saw no lînks?
Well, I wonder what happened ? Charles Thomas has made some serious claims about tha rev. Any updates?
so which part of violation of codes are you guys not understanding? And if a person can do what they want on private propety, how about a nice backyard slaughterhouse?
In his game room are 140 seats, a podium and a portrait of the last supper. You know, like a church. There’s a six foot white cross on his front lawn next to a four by eight foot sign for announcements. You know, like you’d see in front of a church.
funny you should mention that
http://farmandranchfreedom.org/Pingree-livestock-amendment
In hostile environments, the Unitarians have what are called "fellowships" since there's usually not that many Basically, there's not enough people to claim church status. Seems like the biggest complaint here is parking. That would annoy the neighbors.
In "hostile" environments? You mean like an 80% Christian country? Do they normally accept donations and have a registered non-profit listed as a 'church' at their 'house' in their 2000 sq ft 'not Church' building?
more like there's just not enough of them to justify a seperate building. I don't think they qualify for non profit church status, it's just like minded people getting together.
It IS a nonprofit organization. It's been registered since 2001. You can easily look it up on the Arizona Corporations Registry website (or scroll down for the link, since I've posted some links here already). This story is slanted by Fox and the Salman congregation. Also, look up this guy's history, and you'll see the problem. He lives in a half million dollar house off the donations he's receiving for services, including Baptisms. Just google this joker's name and you'll see. Wolf in sheep's clothing.
I had to laugh at the '20 people' in his backyard being ordered out for code violations. Shoot if that is true my big Catholic is violating occupancy codes left right and center whenever we get together lol
Daniel 11:29 At the time appointed he shall return, and come toward the south; but it shall not be as the former, or as the latter.
11:30 For the ships of Chittim shall come against him: therefore he shall be grieved, and return, and have indignation against the holy covenant: so shall he do; he shall even return, and have intelligence with them that forsake the holy covenant.
11:31 And arms shall stand on his part, and they shall pollute the sanctuary of strength, and shall take away the daily [sacrifice], and they shall place the abomination that maketh desolate.
11:32 And such as do wickedly against the covenant shall he corrupt by flatteries: but the people that do know their God shall be strong, and do [exploits].
11:33 And they that understand among the people shall instruct many: yet they shall fall by the sword, and by flame, by captivity, and by spoil, [many] days.
11:34 Now when they shall fall, they shall be holpen with a little help: but many shall cleave to them with flatteries.
11:35 And [some] of them of understanding shall fall, to try them, and to purge, and to make [them] white, [even] to the time of the end: because [it is] yet for a time appointed.
11:36 And the king shall do according to his will; and he shall exalt himself, and magnify himself above every god, and shall speak marvellous things against the God of gods, and shall prosper till the indignation be accomplished: for that that is determined shall be done.
11:37 Neither shall he regard the God of his fathers, nor the desire of women, nor regard any god: for he shall magnify himself above all.
11:38 But in his estate shall he honour the God of forces: and a god whom his fathers knew not shall he honour with gold, and silver, and with precious stones, and pleasant things.
11:39 Thus shall he do in the most strong holds with a strange god, whom he shall acknowledge [and] increase with glory: and he shall cause them to rule over many, and shall divide the land for gain.
11:40 And at the time of the end shall the king of the south push at him: and the king of the north shall come against him like a whirlwind, with chariots, and with horsemen, and with many ships; and he shall enter into the countries, and shall overflow and pass over.
11:41 He shall enter also into the glorious land, and many [countries] shall be overthrown: but these shall escape out of his hand, [even] Edom, and Moab, and the chief of the children of Ammon.
11:42 He shall stretch forth his hand also upon the countries: and the land of Egypt shall not escape.
11:43 But he shall have power over the treasures of gold and of silver, and over all the precious things of Egypt: and the Libyans and the Ethiopians [shall be] at his steps.
11:44 But tidings out of the east and out of the north shall trouble him: therefore he shall go forth with great fury to destroy, and utterly to make away many.
11:45 And he shall plant the tabernacles of his palace between the seas in the glorious holy mountain; yet he shall come to his end, and none shall help him.
Chapter 12
12:1 And at that time shall Michael stand up, the great prince which standeth for the children of thy people: and there shall be a time of trouble, such as never was since there was a nation [even] to that same time: and at that time thy people shall be delivered, every one that shall be found written in the book.
Romans 13:1-2
1 Let everyone be subject to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God.
2 Consequently, whoever rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves.
Salman family…….Jesus is closer than we think…..keep the faith.
When 2 are more are gathered in His Name , its called church. Why cant the government stay out of it? Oh that because they want to take God out of everything. What's wrong with this country? Can you say O-B-A-M-A!
LAME EXCUSE,HOW ABOUT GOING AFTER REAL CRIMINALS?
I bet if they had built a mosque, there wouldnt be anything said. Our world is going straight to hell in a hand basket.
So they'll be coming after us Jehovah's Witnesses next? We conduct home bible studies all the time. When we have Family Study Night, often friends join us.
F**K all you control freaks! F**K the Nanny State! F**K ANY violation of individual Constitutional rights by busy – body nitpicking petty local tyrants! No level of government should have the right to tell me what I can do INSIDE of a legally – constructed building on my OWN property…. as long as I do not cause physical harm to anyone else. And F**K any bureaucratic A$$hole who gets in the way of any citizen's Constitutional rights to free association. And F**K any GOD D****D neighbor who gets his panties tied in a knot about what I do on my own property.
Rod Dougherty Lies to hurt veterans.
The Editor of Foster newspaper I heard from a very well respected person is telling that my wife and I did not buy land on Wheel Wright Pond in Lee NH. I herd that he told County Commissioner George Marglaris that my scheme is an election year ploy to get votes. The ethical and moral ramifications from the editor of a newspaper so harming US Military Veterans with lies is wrong and the Fosters newspaper is just a rag as this shows. I was so stunned when the first person told me this that I started asking well to do citizens Rod and I had in common and they confirmed the facts of what roomers of Rod’s lies. During the confirmation of the facts is where I was told of George Marglaris was one of the people Rod talked too. The question is does Rod have the moral and ethical Wismar to stand behind what he is saying about others. The more important question is will the Foster’s print the truth of what is going on. It is not just Rod I also herd that editors of other newspapers warns the reporters doing news on the election to avoid me or interview me by telephone for fear of the danger that this candidate is running for NH State Senate. The Portsmouth Herald is doing a story on me this Sunday. I do not know what it will say well or bad. I hope the one point that I got through to the reporter is that my letters come from disabilities that I received defending and protecting this great nation.
My wife and I put our life savings on the line to purchase the property on Wheel Wright Pond at 101 Stepping Stone Rd Lee NH for the express purpose of building 12’x24’ cabins in the woods for homeless and/or physically-mentally disabled US Military Veterans to live free of charge to try to come back. We want to build a handicapped access down to the water edge and paths around the eleven-acres for the veteran to find God and themselves as the speed and rate of their own will. The harmful effects of Rod or any editor’s words expressly a character assignation becomes so harmful it is beyond reproach. The Veteran Resort-Chapel was approved by the State of NH on 9/19/12. The book 4041 and page 0141 of the Strafford County deed of records is public knowledge where Rod if he had wanted to tell the truth could confirm the facts. My wife and I also mortgaged our home to the hilt to continue this venture. What right does any editor have to question the sheer fact that my dream to help other disabled Veterans have a chance back here could be so selfish as to use it to get elected. To me the election is my way of volunteering to help as a volunteer the State of NH. If I did get elected my using this elected position to help other veterans while filling my job as an elected official is what I would do. I believe that even though only eleven percent of the US population every joins our Armed Forces they deserve more than homelessness. I believe Rod is a Veteran but his actions are deplorable. The Fosters and any newspaper not printing this opinion letter of a US Military Veteran being wronged by the news media is an example of the toilet that freedom of the press has become.
Peter Macdonald Sgt USMC Semper Fi.
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Why is it that most other power conference commissioners seem to say things of substance and Bowlsby says nothing? We would like a championship game but we wouldn’t. We are discussion expansion but don’t want to. We are stable but we are discussing scheduling alliances to fend off further expansion. Obviously speaking in absolutes isn’t possible with these topics, but c’mon…..say something or say nothing, not both.
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I guess we should all move to beautiful Cairo… Home of womens rights!!
wherever you live is dangerous for children
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So is strapping bombs to them. Clean up your side of the street before messing with mine. Filthy stool pusher
you sick jesus freaks are as bad as any taliban
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