Aug 6, 2012
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The owner of a Colorado bakery said in spite of picket lines and online petitions he will not change a store policy against baking wedding cakes for homosexual couples – a policy that critics call hateful and bigoted.
More than 4,200 people have signed an online petition calling on the Masterpiece Cake Shop to ends its policy banning gay wedding cakes. Over the weekend, several dozen people picketed the privately-owned store in Lakewood, Colo.
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“Everyone has the same rights,” one protestor told television station KDVR. “A gay wedding cake, a straight wedding cake – it’s the same thing.”
Jack Phillips, the owner of the cake shop, said his ban on making cakes for gay weddings is a result of his religious beliefs.
Photo by KDVR
“I’m not going to change my business because of a petition,” he told the Denver Post. “I’m just going to do the best I can do to honor Jesus Christ.”
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“By denying service to gay couples, they are essentially slapping us all in the face, and I simply cannot stand idly by while such shameful behavior is allowed to continue,” said Macklin MacKenzie, a Denver resident who started the petition.
“I am not sure how the cakes taste, but I know bigotry and hate tastes disgusting,” MacKenzie said.
Phillips found himself in the middle of a controversy several weeks ago when David Mullins and Charlie Craig asked the bakery to make a rainbow cake for their wedding reception.
“He quickly informed us that his business did not provide cakes for gay weddings,” Craig said in a statement. “This moment was offensive, dehumanizing, awkward and quite painful.”
Mullins then cursed the owner, “f*** you and your homophobic cake shop.”
The couple then posted the encounter on Facebook which spread across the nation.
“This was the first time that either of us had ever been turned away from a business because of our sexuality,” Craig said. “The venality of a cake shop denying a loving couple a wedding cake is symbolic of the small thinking that permeates American society.”
But the protests have not hurt business. Phillips told local media that a number of people have either called or dropped by to show their support for his ban on gay wedding cakes.
“I’m a follower of Jesus Christ and you could say it’s a religious belief but I believe the Bible teaches that’s not an okay thing,” he told television station KDVR.
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wouldn't hurt my feelings.. after all, as you said, it's their business. however, I'm sure they will decide what is or isn't in their interests in regards as to what religions, etc can post to their walls..but if they closed out Christians today, wouldn't make a fig of diff to me.
wouldn't hurt my feelings.. after all, as you said, it's their business. however, I'm sure they will decide what is or isn't in their interests in regards as to what religions, etc can post to their walls..but if they closed out Christians today, wouldn't make a fig of diff to me.
wouldn't hurt my feelings.. after all, as you said, it's their business. however, I'm sure they will decide what is or isn't in their interests in regards as to what religions, etc can post to their walls..but if they closed out Christians today, wouldn't make a fig of diff to me.
wouldn't hurt my feelings.. after all, as you said, it's their business. however, I'm sure they will decide what is or isn't in their interests in regards as to what religions, etc can post to their walls..but if they closed out Christians today, wouldn't make a fig of diff to me.
wouldn't hurt my feelings.. after all, as you said, it's their business. however, I'm sure they will decide what is or isn't in their interests in regards as to what religions, etc can post to their walls..but if they closed out Christians today, wouldn't make a fig of diff to me.
wouldn't hurt my feelings.. after all, as you said, it's their business. however, I'm sure they will decide what is or isn't in their interests in regards as to what religions, etc can post to their walls..but if they closed out Christians today, wouldn't make a fig of diff to me.
wouldn't hurt my feelings.. after all, as you said, it's their business. however, I'm sure they will decide what is or isn't in their interests in regards as to what religions, etc can post to their walls..but if they closed out Christians today, wouldn't make a fig of diff to me.
wouldn't hurt my feelings.. after all, as you said, it's their business. however, I'm sure they will decide what is or isn't in their interests in regards as to what religions, etc can post to their walls..but if they closed out Christians today, wouldn't make a fig of diff to me.
wouldn't hurt my feelings.. after all, as you said, it's their business. however, I'm sure they will decide what is or isn't in their interests in regards as to what religions, etc can post to their walls..but if they closed out Christians today, wouldn't make a fig of diff to me.
wouldn't hurt my feelings.. after all, as you said, it's their business. however, I'm sure they will decide what is or isn't in their interests in regards as to what religions, etc can post to their walls..but if they closed out Christians today, wouldn't make a fig of diff to me.
Ohhhhh, he's a Christian! That makes his discrimination okay since he's doing it in the name of God.
No the baker is an artist who doesn't want to make a piece of art he doesn't like.
Grow up.
Did they order a "fudge-packed" cake or what? LOL! Hurray to the owner for standing up for his principles! The attempts to force acceptance of everything in this world need to stop. Why don't the gays just STFU and go on with their lives? There's plenty of places they can buy cakes without trying to force this bakery to do what they don't believe in.
The problem is that there is no such thing as gay rights or minority rights, just the equal rights that God has given to all people.. Gays don't want equal rights in most cases, but special privileges and mandates to force others to give them approval and get their own way.. The only way to do that is at the point of a gun.
The gaystapo at work. More proof that homosexuals are not only bullies but they feel entitled to bully.
Why should a cake shop be forced to make a cake that they don't make? If they want to have a gay wedding cake, just buy an ordinary one, and put whatever you want on it. Its not like the business wont sell to gays, so why force them to make a product that they simply hadn't?
Why should a cake shop be forced to make a cake that they don't make? If they want to have a gay wedding cake, just buy an ordinary one, and put whatever you want on it. Its not like the business wont sell to gays, so why force them to make a product that they simply hadn't?
Because liberals have made homosexuals a protected group
If a Church could refuse a same sex marriage; If a Christian hospital could refuse carry out an abortion, so a business could have the same right. Mr Zuckkerberg could shut down account for Christians as he wishes if he thought "his atheist God" want him to do so. If I chose Jesus as my guidance, I must followed his teaching, even if I have to be killed for following him.
I'm really sick of the "hate" mantra. It is not hatred, it's just a stand according to a conviction. Gays can go somewhere else to get a cake just as someone who wants an abortion can go to a doctor who is a murderer. But they insist on these obnoxious, arrogant, and pointless protests against people with convictions. The law can justly force people to not discriminate against race or gender but it cannot nor should not force anyone to support a behavior they disagree with.
That being said, it's an interesting stand for the baker to take. By scripture any union which is not blessed by God is really part of the overall problem of society…which is about 90% of marriages out there currently. Would he also refuse a cake to someone who can't produce an endorsed counseling certificate by a pastor for a heterosexual marriage? Of course not. I'm not saying he's a hypocrite, but it's something he should consider if he hasn't already. I don't know what I'd do to be honest. I'd have to really pray about it. Knowing me, I wouldn't make wedding cakes at all just because I think current society has destroyed the true meaning of marriage on all fronts. I support him in his decision and believe it's his right to legally refuse business to anyone if that's the way he wants to run it. Let capatilism run its course with things like this.
Unfortunately things like this will continue to run their course throughout our existence. But ultimately as well as fortunately God still wins in the end.
With that said…I don't entirely agree with the way Christians are handling the Chick Fil'A situation. If it's winning people to Christ that is a target objective, I think we are missing the mark. Are we not called to walk humbly and in peace? We can take a stand for our faith by simply applying the principles of love that Christ has taught and still continues to teach us. Love covers a multitude of sins…does it not?
And with that I don't mean we should stand back and do nothing…but if we are doing something to be that Christlike example it better be the right thing, the right way. True?
"And He (Jesus) answered and said to them, "Have you not read that He who made them at the beginning made them male and female and said for this reason a man shall leave his father and mother and be joined to his wife and the two shall become one flesh." Matthew 19:4…Men leaving the natural use of the woman, burned in their lust for one another, men with men committing what is shameful and receiving in themselves the penalty of their error which was due" Romans 1:27.
Just thought it would be helpful to see where Christian "bigots", as they been called here, get the spiritual backbone to stand up against the gay agenda. If you don't like the truth of Scripture I suggest you take it up with the Lord and quite berating believers who are simply trying to live by His Words.
This is getting ridiculous. If your wedding cake is that important there are plenty of bakerys who would be happy to make your cake. You have the right to choose your choice of bakeries just like they have the right to choose who they bake cakes for. Too much drama.
Mullins then cursed the owner, “f*** you and your homophobic cake shop.”.
There's a nice open-minded fellow. What a loving comment.
The bakery is NOT denying cakes to gay couples. They can buy all the cake they want. They are just refusing to put a gay message on the cake. Big difference people. I wonder if a gay-owned bakery would decorate a cake for a Christian patron that has a message supporting "Don't ask, don't tell." Probably not. That's the difference.
Is the "Right to buy a wedding cake anywhere I want" a new civil right? I missed that.
People have gotten the entire story twisted. The bakery is not refusing to sell cakes to gay people. He is refusing to put a message on the cake that goes against what he believes. I'm sure if a Christian walked into a gay-owned bakery and ordered a cake with "Being gay is a sin" written on it, the owners would refuse to put that on the cake. And it would be their right to do so.
People have been calling this and the chik-fil-a controversy acts of hate. Knowing what Christians believe about homosexuality, the only thing hateful would be for them not to express their beliefs about it.
If their cakes "taste like bigotry," I have a solution. Don't buy from them. In other words, quit trying to find a baker who doesn't want to work with you and find a baker who agrees with you. The poor liberal bakers need your business. Leave the Conservative bakers alone. Everybody is happy then, and everybody gets to live according to their consciences.
Gays can do what they want as far as their personal lives. I only have a problem when they want to make me approve of their deviant behavior. Nothing will convince me there is anything normal about what they do, so quit trying to tell me I am wrong because I don't approve. Your choice to be gay, mine not to approve. No malice intended towards them but they seem to have malice towards people that disagree with their life style. Bring on all the standard remarks, I am a big boy and can take it!
Ok folks that can head over to Colorado bakery, They needs our support. First Chic Filet now Carolina bakery. Don't they know how out numbered they are? Just can't rationalize things with a liberal group that have a warped common brainwashing.
Gays can do what they want as far as their personal lives. I only have a problem when they want to make me approve of their deviant behavior. Nothing will convince me there is anything normal about what they do, so quit trying to tell me I am wrong because I don't approve. Your choice to be gay, mine not to approve. No malice intended towards them but they seem to have malice towards people that disagree with their life style. Bring on all the standard remarks, I am a big boy and can take it!
when are you homos going to learn that it's not the Church's decision, it's not the leaders decision. it's nobodies decision. It's gods decision that you homos are in sin. So get over it and meet the devil when your time comes.
The Nazis shut down Jewish businesses. Now the Democrats want to shut down Christian businesses.
once again I see the"alternative lifestyle" that preaches they only want tolerance and peaceful discussions proves itself to be nothing more than hypocrites, showing NO tolerance for ANYONE who does not share or accept their views. Once again they scream and protest and run amok because someone is standing firm to their Christian beliefs that homosexuality IS a sin…yet they (the LGBT crowd) continually "stand firm" in their belief that they are right no matter what and that anyone who disagrees is a bigot or some uneducated ignorant redneck who clings to his guns and God. If the LBGT community really wants to see what bigotry is like I challenge them to go into a middle eastern country and do the very same thing there that they do to those who disagree with this lifestyle… and I can assure them that they will see that they have NOTHING to complain about in the U.S. I and millions of other americans believe that Christ is the son of God and that the word of God is written in the Bible and if you have a problem with that then fine that's your problem, if you want to have a civil discussion about why homosexuality is a sin and are actually willing to listen with an open mind fine Christians will teach you what the word of God means and what he said about homosexuality, and what it means to be a Christian. BUT when you tell a private business owner that he or she cannot hold on to their beliefs because it is NOT what you believe in then you are guilty of bigotry and intolerance yourselves. The bakery owner is doing nothing more than what he believes in as a Christian… I am sure there are gay bakers out there that would gladly fill your orders for gay cakes… and as such what would the LBGT community say if one of those "gay" bakers came under fire for not baking a heterosexual couples wedding cake because they do not support straight marriage? I can say that you (the LGBT community) would claim that baker is only just doing his job with the beliefs he / she holds… yet you do not extend that "understanding" and tolerance to others. The bottom line is, is that the baker in question whom you are protesting is a PRIVATE business owner and can CHOOSE who he wishes to do OR not do business with… that is one of the perks of owning your own business. So get over yourselves and quit being hypocritical and MAYBE listen to those whom you accuse of being bigots, because as of now your actions have shown that the only bigots that are involved in this mess are you.. the LBGT community.
Personally, I think someone is missing a business opportunity. Instead of picking on this bakery, why doesn't someone else step up and make gay themed bakery items? Doesn't take a rocket scientist…
And let the ambush begin. This is too convenient even for a skeptic like me. I would not be surprised if the couple in question deliberately targeted this establishment. Oh yeah I love how people assume they know what God is thinking or how He would think. I seem to recall God being quite clear on morality and accountability. Last time I checked we are supposed to rise to Him not bring His words to Earth and use them to justify every behavior and sin as acceptance and love. Accountability is a bugger. Congrats to the cake shop owner. Stand firm in your Christian beliefs.
It amazes me that you have freedom of speech and freedom of religion until you disagree with people like these. It's his business. I see this as nothing more than an entitlement hissy fit. If they want the cake for their little get together, then bake it yourself instead of harassing this man and his business. This and cursing at the owner as you walk out does not make me feel empathetic towards you. It isn't the adult, mature thing to do. Saying, "Thank you for your time," and walking out calmly would have been better.
how is this any different from the bakery who refused to make a child's bday cake because the child had a nazi name? the public overwhemling supported the bakery. the child along with his other siblings were subsequently removed from their parents because of their given names. how is this bakery violating their right's and the other not violating that child's right?
So much whining and complaining of being victimized from these people. Will they ever grow up? Go get a cake from someone else.
The cake store owner has the right to refuse service to anyone. For whatever reason. If the gay couple didn't like it… I'm sure there are more cake stores around there. Or have one of their friends make them a rainbow cake.
The only thing that is a shame and hurtful is the fact that somehow we have gone from something we all know is wrong, to now we are hurtful, bigoted and discriminating! I couldn't get food at any Chick-fil-a on Wednesday and on Friday there was not a Homosexual or Lesbian to be seen. I really believe that a large percentage of the media is controlled by homosexual/Lesbian folks who are trying to make it look ok by bombarding us with homosexual support in movies, advertizement and just about any kind of TV. Yet I do not see it in real life. (and by the way, my father was homosexual). If there is really so many of them, then where are they? They didn't turn out last Wednesday or Friday. I love the media showing a hand full of homosexual protestors in a picture which makes it look like a movement. If we could see to the left or the right of the picture, there is nobody there.
Easy fix, take your business elsewhere. Why would you want to give money to someone who doesn't want your business?
I love the fact that what happens in a small bakery in Colorado has such a huge impact on people who don't live there, especially when you consider the percentage of the national population that self-identifies as homosexual.
A 2011 report by the Institute estimated that 4 million adults identify as gay or lesbian, representing 1.7% of the population over 18. Other estimates put the homosexual population of the US at 3-4% of the total population.
Glad that something that affects so few people (in the grand scheme) can gather so much attention in an election year when the sitting POTUS' record is nothing short of an abysmal failure.
The "gay marriage crisis" would be a non-event save for BHO's televised admission of his "evolution" and the MSM's willingess to MAKE news instead of BREAKING it.
Many more people might be sympathetic to their plight if they weren't perpetuating this lie that we Christians hate them. The baker only objected to "wedding" cakes for homosexuals. Obviously he has served homosexuals with other types of cakes. They are demanding that we support their commission of sin.
If we take the homosexuals thinking to it's logical conclusion, and we objected to their request to prepare a cake with two naked men having sex as the decoration, they would decry that as being "against gays". I think that they're intelligent enough to know this, yet dishonest enough to fraudulently portray it as victimization so as to fit into their strategy to persecute anyone who objects to their actions.
This truly reveals their lying nature to perpetuate this fraud upon the American people.
His store. What's the big deal? Let people vote with there $'s. If a passel of heterosexuals we're protesting a business that did bake cakes for gay weddings, would that be ok?
I am a Republican but I don't see how this guy can sell to the public and turn away business because the people are gay. I thought religious people were not supposed to judge others and love their neighbor. You have to rent a house to someone without discriminating so what is the difference with selling services or products? Why does our party constantly try to chase people away, lets focus on the economy people.
Randy French · Manatee High School.
I realize that my opinion is probably not a popular one but I too would like to suggest that it is the company owner's perogative of whom he will and will not serve. Although I certainly understand some of the people's comments here and am appreciative of some of them, the bottom line is IT'S HIS RIGHT! Joe Disefano, it sounds as though you have been "discriminated" against before. I hope that that "discrimination" was focused on the sin and not laced by hate toward you because although we are to hate sin, we are to love the sinner. As for Evelyn's comments, I too appreciate your heart and your desire to become more Christlike but understand that when Jesus told the prostitute that He does not stand in judgement of her, He also told her to go and sin no more.
It's called freedom or religion. It least it used to be back when we use to have freedom of speech. Remember, pre Obama.
At least he refused to make the cake. He could have just made a crappy cake, absorbed the loss and gleefully laughed about it as he delivered a salty cake. I'm all for gay marriage, but the tactics that are being used aren't working. Attacking 70% of the population isn't going to change anything. All it's doing is making people mad and cementing their belief that "militant gays are ruining this country". No lie. That's what people I've broached the subject with say. I actually had a few people half convinced that the world wouldn't end if gays got married. The Chick-fil-A flap cured them of that notion real quick. So, yeah, the tactics aren't working, so change them.
The grocery store analogy doesn't fit the Christian are not asking for anything specific to be made or unique. Not all grocery stores carry kosher food it all depends upon the local customers. Free enterprise or capitalism is at work here. By the way freedom of religion is in the constitution freedom of sexual preference is not.
I can't wait to start my own business. I'm going to refuse to serve everyone for any reason I can think of. Then, when I go out of business, I will blame Obama because he didn't give me enough help building it.
Do these people really have nothing better to do? Why aren't they at work? Why don't they realize that by pushing their agenda that they are causing more opposition?
These protesters expect this man to violate his own religious beliefs.
The actual issue is how Colorado law defines this under its public accommodation statutes. Anyone know?
The biggest issue I see is that liberals seem to view religion as if it were Sunday clothes that you take off Monday through Saturday. Religious belief, the set of morals and standards that go with it are an integral part of the individual. I would have thought gays would understand this, since that is the heart of their arguments too. One doesn't lose the right to religious freedom just because you are a business owner. Just as gays have the right to protest, this guy has the right to refuse business.
Brian, that is the same way I think. pushing there life choices on others is way out of line and should not be tolorated. The family unit is how a society flourishes and once this declines then everything falls apart. Oh, the family unit is a MAN, WOMAN having children not man/man, woman/woman adopting children. If they keep this up the only children who they could adopt would be from countries that do not to allow open gays. This country would be all rainbow!