Oct 9, 2012
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A Florida election supervisor has expressed grave concerns over allegations that Organizing For America volunteers misrepresented themselves as elections officials to gain access to high schools so they could register teenagers to vote.
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“It’s a felony to misrepresent yourself as being an election official when you are not,” said Brian Corley, the supervisor of elections in Pasco County.
Corley said the pro-Obama volunteers registered “hundreds” of high school students last month when they were given access to as many as a half dozen Pasco County Schools – a district located north of Tampa.
According to school email obtained by Fox News, some of the Organizing For America volunteers identified themselves as employees of the local elections office.
“I spoke with administration at both FHS and HHS who told me that three individuals (at least two of them former Pasco teachers) have been at their school,” wrote staff member Paula Lesko in an email to another employee. “However, in at least one case, those individuals said they were from the Pasco Supervisor of Elections Office.”
Corley told Fox News that none of his employees were involved in the registration drive.
“It’s troubling,” he said. “They were certainly not with our office.”
In addition to voter registration drives, a former teacher was allowed to deliver Obama speeches to a number of senior high school students.
“She got into six classrooms and gave pro-Obama speeches – like way off to the left,” said James Mathieu, general counsel for the Pasco County Republican Party. “Parents complained.”
When Republicans demanded equal access, the school system refused.
“There was definitely discussion of having a Republican come in for equal access,” spokesman John Mann told Fox News. “We’re not going in that direction because that would indeed be an additional violation of board policy.”
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The school system confirmed they are investigating the allegations but so far they have not contacted local law enforcement about the possible violations of state law. That has a number of parents wondering why?
“It’s a security issue,” said parent Carlos Saenz. “We have some individuals who essentially perpetrated a fraud and accessed the school grounds under false pretenses.”
Sanez said he called three board members to ask why the police haven’t been called – and so far he hasn’t received an answer.
“This is too big, too important for the school board to handle it internally,” he said. “This needs to be handed to the authorities. There are people that committed fraud and if there was a crime committed – then than needs to be identified and perhaps prosecuted.”
As the county’s election supervisor, Conley said he was disturbed at the partisan nature of the registration drive.
“It’s disconcerting to hear allegations of any third party with an agenda towards any sort of partisanship going – and speaking to our students,” he told Fox News.
Conley said Organizing For America turned over their registration cards – and to his knowledge nothing appeared inappropriate.
“I did take a look at the data to make sure there were no anomalies,” he said.
Saenz told Fox News the incident is a clear example of what he called the “liberal tendencies” of the school board.
And many local residents are still wondering why Democrats were allowed access to school children – but Republicans were not granted the same access.
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Is anyone surprised by this?
Funny how they are not concerned about violating board policy until after the first agenda is met. If it walks like a duck, talks like a duck….
This administration is full of controversy and lies but are granted protection from the mainstream media and act as if they are untouchable. Sad.
You act as if this was condoned or set up by the admin directly.
You act as if this was condoned or set up by the admin directly.
Patrick Mares, I say it was… they knew it was political in nature no matter what… and exactly how many teenagers are even in JR High that are eligible to Vote that need to be registered to vote this election… for that matter how many in high school are even eligible to vote that they need to have them fill out registration cards…. just another way to gather names for illegals to vote if you ask me… why else would you need them to fill out registration cards if their not even old enough to vote???
Patrick Mares, I say it was… they knew it was political in nature no matter what… and exactly how many teenagers are even in JR High that are eligible to Vote that need to be registered to vote this election… for that matter how many in high school are even eligible to vote that they need to have them fill out registration cards…. just another way to gather names for illegals to vote if you ask me… why else would you need them to fill out registration cards if their not even old enough to vote???
Quack Quack.
The paranoia runs deep with you Tim Weiler! This was a small group of volunteers and if they broke laws they should be arrested and prosecuted, but to blame the Obama admin is ridiculous, but I understand most Obama haters cannot focus on facts and think he controls everything.
Patrick are you really that stupid or just acting like the trained Nobama brown shirts? Even idiot liberals can see thru this normal Demoncrap tactic. Answer the questions if you are so intelligent on the subject! Do you honestly NOT see this as the illegal tactic it is – give these kids names to the illegal migrate leeches or deceased so they can illegally vote often in whatever election they can infiltrate. You left loon guys are just too stupid to make it thru the day without someone leading you by the nose but hey, go drink some more kool aid!
Patrick Mares, put it simple for you… you would think the school would have put a stop to this after the very first class at the very first school, unless they were supporting it themselves… I have yet to see a school that allows anyone to come in and give a speech or talking to any class without having it monitored… so after the very first class or for that matter during the very first class when they seen/heard that this was a Obama campaign move they should have put a stop to it right than and there… so to say the admin didn't know is hogwash… and to say Nobama's admin didn't know anything about it is again hogwash, because they send out memo's telling them how, when and where to do what they do, so that it benefits Nobama!
Tim Weiler absolutely. "Our," education system has been, "our," indoctrination system ever since the education was tacitly handed to the left in the sixties and formally handed to them by President Carter under his reign.
There is a movie/documentary about that very thing. http://www.indoctrinationmovie.com and a book. Both worth getting.
Sandy Gaines How eloquent and lady like you are. It really takes an educated and sophisticated women to name call and act like a spoiled child who did not get their way. If this is an illegal acts those responsible should be arrested and prosecuted I have ALREADY said that, but children who are busy slinging insults usually miss talking points. Please cite all the cases of voter fraud in the last 50 years if it is such a big issue. I doubt you will do this instead you will come back slinging more childish insults and acting the fool.
Tim Weiler I never said the schools were not responsible did I? I said the admin had not direct involvement (at least implicated or proven at this point) and to insinuate Obama was involved is a huge assumption. I do not support Obama, but I do not support unabashed hatred and false allegations against the office of the President either. Obama has done many things wrong and hopefully will lose the election, but people acting like you and Sandy are giving the right a bad name.
Tim Weiler I never said the schools were not responsible did I? I said the admin had not direct involvement (at least implicated or proven at this point) and to insinuate Obama was involved is a huge assumption. I do not support Obama, but I do not support unabashed hatred and false allegations against the office of the President either. Obama has done many things wrong and hopefully will lose the election, but people acting like you and Sandy are giving the right a bad name.
Tim Weiler I never said the schools were not responsible did I? I said the admin had not direct involvement (at least implicated or proven at this point) and to insinuate Obama was involved is a huge assumption. I do not support Obama, but I do not support unabashed hatred and false allegations against the office of the President either. Obama has done many things wrong and hopefully will lose the election, but people acting like you and Sandy are giving the right a bad name.
R. Scott Slik So Carter mandated that ALL teachers need to be liberal? I recall having MANY conservative teachers growing up in a very liberal state. You have been indoctrinated to believe every teacher or administrator is liberal. In fact the conservative teachers I knew complained that more conservatives would not get off their butt and change the system. It is not a conspiracy to keep conservatives out of the classroom they just do not want to be in the classroom.
R. Scott Slik So Carter mandated that ALL teachers need to be liberal? I recall having MANY conservative teachers growing up in a very liberal state. You have been indoctrinated to believe every teacher or administrator is liberal. In fact the conservative teachers I knew complained that more conservatives would not get off their butt and change the system. It is not a conspiracy to keep conservatives out of the classroom they just do not want to be in the classroom.
R. Scott Slik So Carter mandated that ALL teachers need to be liberal? I recall having MANY conservative teachers growing up in a very liberal state. You have been indoctrinated to believe every teacher or administrator is liberal. In fact the conservative teachers I knew complained that more conservatives would not get off their butt and change the system. It is not a conspiracy to keep conservatives out of the classroom they just do not want to be in the classroom.
Every state needs voter ID laws. So happy that my state of Indiana does.
Patrick Mares, http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2012/09/25/voter-watchdog-group-claims-to-have-uncovered-absentee-ballot-fraud-in-florida/ this is just one of many cases of voter fraud… there is also, the lady who admitted voting the past 6 elections and she is an illegal and was found guilty and sent to prison… This is one reason why Florida is purging their voter registration records….
They found 31 duplicate votes 32 if you count this illegal. Were they all voting liberal? I personally have no issue with voter ID laws, but I will laugh when some conservative is mugged or losses his/her ID and cannot vote.
Tim Weiler Oh and how do you vote absentee if you need to have a validated ID?
Patrick Mares, they found that many out of just a small percentage of the ones they checked… they are turning those over to the states for them to handle and at the same time telling the states they need to check the rest as well for others…. so to say there isn't fraud going on out there is a out right lie… even if the number is just 10%, that 10% can make or break an election…
I never said voter fraud never occurred so do not put words into peoples mouth. It does happen, but at such a small rate it hardly has an impact. 10% would be a gross exaggeration of the % of voter fraud that goes on and the fraud is not one sided either I am sure. I agree any amount of voter fraud is not acceptable and we should do what we can to curb it, but voter fraud has existed as long as we have voted in elections. People try to cheat and I am all for actions that will eliminate as much voter fraud as possible.
Patrick Mares, is there anywhere in any of my comments where I said you stated there wasn't any voter fraud… however 9 comments up you did say "Please cite all the cases of voter fraud in the last 50 years if it is such a big issue."… so I figured I would just answer your question with facts like you requested…
so please, do have a nice day Patrick… unless you would like to debate this issue some more…
Your comment was a direct response to mine so sorry if I assumed you were directing that comment to me and not talking in generalities. You have a nice day as well.
Patrick Mares get back to class and learn something kid,
facts, you obviously dont know what one is, it is easy to blame them individually so as to not appear as if the dumocratic party organized it, this admin and all of it's fanatics are following the plan to a T, just didnt think they would get caught, or act as if it is nothing they do is wrong, move a long nothing to see attitude. shake your head and get BS out of it, professors have been for 25 years indoctrinating and brain washing students for 25 + years. think for yourself. Some of the teachers and MOST of the administrators of schools are on board for odumbo.
You refer to the democratic party as dumocratic and then suggest I go back to school. If this was an organization wide plan they would of tried to do the same thing in other states and did not. I do think for myself I suggest you do the same as you have obviously been indoctrinated by the right to demonize the entire left you are no better than the people you profess are indoctrinating others.
At least have the integrity to admit the media has dealt Obama a "pass card" when it comes to critiquing his policies and decisions. Even CNN admitted it. Is it because they are afraid of be called "racist" or "racially biased"? Or is just the fact the media, all media today is pushing their agenda instead of pushing the "news". I for one believe the media in general has lost all credibility over the last four years. I would rather watch BBC than American media. It is dry but at least it is the facts without the embellishments.
The media does have a political bias and I wish they would go back to reporting just the facts. I agree with you that the BBC is a model of unbiased journalism.
The media does have a political bias and I wish they would go back to reporting just the facts. I agree with you that the BBC is a model of unbiased journalism.
The media does have a political bias and I wish they would go back to reporting just the facts. I agree with you that the BBC is a model of unbiased journalism.
so I am as bad as the professors indoctrinating students,? HOW? who am I FORCING to learn things in a certain way of thinking? you attack people because they dont agree with you but when someone does it to you then oh your just as bad as they are….stupid
The fact you think students are being indoctrinated to be liberals is what I am attacking. I left the public school system in the 90's and have several family members that have since been through it and non were indoctrinated into believing anything and most are Conservatives. I am personally a fiscal conservative and social liberal on most issues.
The fact you think students are being indoctrinated to be liberals is what I am attacking. I left the public school system in the 90's and have several family members that have since been through it and non were indoctrinated into believing anything and most are Conservatives. I am personally a fiscal conservative and social liberal on most issues.
Tim Weiler Ofcourse the schools are supporting it.Not all but some obviously are. Does not take a rocket scientist to figure that one out. Did anyone see the story about the teacher that compared the students Mitt Romney shirt to a KKK Robe. WOW! They are union through and through. They are scared for their tenure. And scared someone is going to take the golden egg the union has laid for them. The left is scared after last Thursday night. It is comical how the excuses are flying. Altitude sickness. Really? He lied. They both lied. I am not left or right. I am middle of the road common sense. And it is about time the common sense started playing a role in our governments decision making.
Not at all surprised by any moves the liberals think are ok for them but noone else. Cheating is the name of their game.
WHERE is the FOX story on the Chicoms election tampering with OBAMA.COM? Breitbart is all over this story and an eerie silence from FOX and DRUDGE?
Really? Does someone think this is legal or nevermind appropriate? But because these are teachers, no one will lose their job or even be disciplined.
If I or any employee did this at my workplace, I/they would be fired… but we are non-union.
Liberals will do anything to steal this election. Anyone really surprised?
Yeah, like hire a voting registration firm whose record is literally chock full of violations and try to rig "Voter ID" laws in dozens of states, and trying to restrict voting hours in Democratic districts ONLY! Those damned Liberals!
Yeah cause asking for ID to vote is really unreasonable. Silly lib.
You have to have id for everything today. What is wrong asking for id to vote to ensure the integrity of th vote?
You have to have id for everything today. What is wrong asking for id to vote to ensure the integrity of th vote?
Joe Mcg EXACTLY. I support the voter ID. Common sense!
Zizzer Zazzer Zuzz , Like stopping the dead vote, Felon vote, cat vote, dog vote, parakeet vote, horse ,cow and donkey votes which put a moron like Al Franken in a senate seat, you jerks dont believe in democracy.
Zizzer Zazzer Zuzz , Like stopping the dead vote, Felon vote, cat vote, dog vote, parakeet vote, horse ,cow and donkey votes which put a moron like Al Franken in a senate seat, you jerks dont believe in democracy.
Nobody is trying to "rig voter id laws" But something does need to be done about illegal aliens voting in our elections. Try casting a vote in Mexico and see how that works out for you. Not to mention the excuse given by the left against voter id cards does not hold water. Certain people will not be able to get a voter id card because they cannot get to a facility that gives them out. But those same people have no problem getting to the place that hands out welfare checks,food stamps, and free cell phones.
Zizzer Zazzer Zucker — Can you prove any of this BS? Yeah, you're right, you damned liberals/socialists.
Yeah, zzzzzzzzzzzzz.
If IDs are required millions of votes won't be counted and many will be disenfranchised. All 250,000 Harry Potters, Bugs Bunny, Mickey Mouse, Frodo, Captain Kangaroo, Mr Green Jeans, Big Bird, Elmo and all those dead people won't be able to vote anymore. What a travesty, since they are all registered as democrats.
If you believe in nothing, you will believe anything. If you believe anything, you will vote democrat.
Joe Mcg Because hard to commit fraud with ID, no other explanation!!! To the D's, to win an election all means are justified!!!
So i guess when you're issued your Federal ID card to be carried at all times, you'll be happy
Yup. Sure will.
My Aunt has voted in every election since 1945. NO driver's licence ( because she never drove) No Birth certificate ( she was born at home) No, she's not on any sort of public assistance, in fact she could probably buy most of you. But it took 3 trips with other people having to drive her to DMV. She still doesn't have an ID. Thankfully a REPUBLICAN JUDGE in PA. saw the lunacy of this whole shame by the right in trying to suppress the vote.People like my Aunt are the majority of what you're talking about.
Zizzer Zazzer Zuzz what a tool. Love to see you squirm there mate.
Saul Clark-Braverman With those wheelbarrel loads of money how does you aunt make withdrawls from the bank
? I guess she may still be socking it under the mattress.
Saul.. Does your brain think it congregates common sense.. or was it all that dope you smoked in the 60's. You are a Hypocrite.. Read your message several times over. You might get it. She has that much money, that much time to go to court.. But she does not have the time or the energy to go and get an FReakn ID to protect her children's, nephews, and grandchildren their Sovereign right to make sure their vote counts.?????? Really.. Again, are you still thinking you make sense. If so, Wow. Academy of Dramatic Arts is not pushing out very Cognitive graduates.. Well.. You are a Liberal Arts Major so what should we all expect.?
Name calling name calling name calling. That's all you can do. She does have the time to go get an ID and went 3 times, but without a drivers license, or Embossed Birth certificate, you need to jump through hoops to get on. But all you guys want to do is say nasty things about my aunt, beat me up for where i went to school, accuse me for what i didn't do in the 70's. Instead at looking at the injustice of these laws. I am not against a voter ID card. I am a against a law that comes out 5 months before an election. So did the Republican Judge.
Seriously……. You think that sentence justifies the rest of us Millions of hard working LEGAL Citizens that pay taxes, contribute to society, to still have our VOTE diminished to Fraud?????? Really…… ? SHE WENT 3 TIMES!!!!! Saul, I just moved.. had to show an ID and a utility bill….I'm registered…Wow. Your Aunt can get a freaking ID easier than going to court.. I DO NOT BELIEVE YOUR STORY… You know what Saul as of this moment you are still entitled to an Opinion, I can only imagine what the world will look like when your Vote does not count. Come on Man…. you have to have a better reason than that one, For Christ sakes.. Don't you hold our Liberty Priceless? Tell ya what, by a plane trip to Mecca, or Iran… No better yet..North Korea..China… Don't have to stay… just visit. Good Luck on getting back though.
Saul Clark-Braverman By the way .. I got to hang with Audrey Meadows in person while she was in town back in 93….. I told her how much I loved her. Sweet Lady.
Why would you carry it at all times Saul? You statement does not make sense.
Once again , name calling instead of fact. What does Audrey meadows have anything to do with my aunt. You don't believe my story, try getting an ID in Pa without a Embossed Birth Certificate. You say you got one with an ID and a utility bill, well with out the picture iD you're out of luck. You say in my statement doesn't make sense. I just stated the facts. don't want to believe it. That's your choice. I really don't understand why I need to go to Iran, North Korea, or China. because i agree with a Republican judge. Not just him, but all the judges who blocked these ID laws because they were pushed through too fast by Republican houses. Most of them have been blocked or delayed until the next election.Like i said above, I have no problem with voter ID. Mike Dunkin, why would I carry what at all times. You guys just want to argue to argue, you have no facts to back up anything you say. Do any of you live in PA, do any of you have anyone to have to go through this, opr do all of you just think that all people without an ID are all on public assistant who smoke, buy drugs and get free cell phones . Sorry guys, that's not the story. As far as voter fraud, in Pa, when the judge asked the State, if they had any proof of individual voter fraud, they came up with nothing, not one case. This voter ID thing is a solution to problem that doesn't exists. it exists on the party side, yea it does. that's been proven in the last 2 weeks, with the company that the Republican party hired then fired. Florida in 2000 and Chicago in 1960. But this individual fraud just doesn't happen.We have voted in this country for over 2 hundred years, don't you think if this was such a problem this is something that might have come up years ago. but no, let's push this through 5 months before an election. Funny, it was only pushed through by states that were Republican run. Don't any of you fiind this interesting. Please if you are going to respond, no name calling, just state facts.
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Saul it has NOTHING to do with Republicans.. You are making it about Republicans… Not falling for it… If it were Democrats pushing this then you would have not a problem with it I am Certain. All of us know why Democrats are not pushing for it.. So right back at ya.. Its the Dems buddy..Yes Voter fraud is a serious Issue and several cases went down and people went to jail after the last presidential election. IE many from ACORN.. you know the one Obama was an Attorney for before he was disbarred…None of the cases were people trying to sign up Dead Republicans…If they would play by the Rules it wouldn't be an issue. Hows That!!! Dems are totally in bed with some of the major Unions and many of these Unions are ruthless crooks… It needs to be done to protect our Vote period. Have a nice life Saul.
Mike Dunkin Saul will never make sense… Classic Left Liberal.
Yesterday I decided to go to Obama's Official site, I never had an interest in going there thinking I would just be lied to. When I clicked on the site I was re directed to a donation page, the page first makes you check a box of how much you want to donate. I thought "I do not want to donate I just want to see what is on his site" It would not let me go past this donation page. I was clearly on "Obama's Official web site".
I thought this was strange so I researched and found that Obama didn't own his own Official site, the short of it is he has it under someone ells name and clearly so Obama could commit fraud, this way Obama can say "I don't own the site" but clearly if Obama wanted to force it close he could. So I found this story about this site and Obama's fraud and crime he is committing, here you go, read this and if you want to verify this for your self just punch into your browser "Obama's official site" and you will see how you are redirected.
http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2012/10/group-warns-of-foreign-fraudulent-donors-to-obama-campaign/
Election Supervisor said he looked at the registration cards and found no anomolies. Anyone wonder how many Republican Cards were turned in?
They have infiltrated our schools our Universities… The best way to combat this is EDUCATE your children yourself about politics. Stop the Madness.
Just remember on Election Day who and what this administration is about: socialism, racial division, anti-Christian, anti-military, and anti-business, anti-family, lying, thieving scum who will stop at nothing to stay in power and destroy America. Take your discontent with the most divisive administration in history and do the right thing. Vote the Hater/Blamer/Campaigner-in-chief, and all his minions out of office on November 6th 2012! Move America in the right direction!
Milt Cross, Sadly, a large segment of our society is actually quite content to vote FOR all of those things you listed. This country is in deep trouble.
when it comes down to it this is not as much about registering young voters for Our Glorious Leader as it is about indoctrinating more young minds about, "the rightness, might and power," of the liberal ideology.
Liberals have the schools and Conservatives have the churches. Generally the Conservatives start the indoctrination process earlier. I had to threaten to never allow my 3 year old to visit my mother in-law again because she was attempting to indoctrinate him already. I mean how weak are your beliefs if you need to attempt to indoctrinate a 3 year old? Let me clarify I have nothing against religion, but young minds are impressionable and I prefer to let me children make up their minds about religion when you get older.
I guess that depends on what you think is "indoctrination". 3 year olds ask a lot of questions. Would you prefer that your mother-in-law lie about her beliefs? If your 3 year sees that your MIL goes to church on Sundays or prays before meals, your 3 year old is going to ask "why"? Certainly you don't expect you MIL to hide her faith when her grandchild comes to visit?
I would prefer my mother in-law honor our requests and direct my child to my wife or I and or explain he need not worry about such things. However that is not what my mother in-law was doing and she was instigating the conversations and using imagery to influence him. Saying things like Jesus is making you a play house in the sky. My 3 year old does not see my MIL go to church and your assumptions are making you look like an ass. No one has asked her to hide her faith.
Patrick Mares wow. he is 3. Geesh. and …these kids..are teens. Hopefully their parents have educated them and THEY can make their own choices! Only then are they making the right choices. My 2 year old and 4 year old…Yeah…When Gram says God Loves you..I am more than happy to smile and agree. When they say "OH Smoking doesn't hurt!" Then i have a problem!!! I don't have to believe IN HER God but I sure as heck don't believe in the real poison in my sons lungs! Just saying! Educate your child in the most neutral way so when they are confronted by either side (Rep…Dems or others) they can be secure and make their own decisions. You alienate your mother in law..YOU will be the one to pay. I assure you. You don't have to have her faith..and I see you aren't against religion, but sometimes…small stuff..ya know. Don't take her grandchild away because of the small stuff! I'd take a story of Jesus or God any day over Nicotine
My MIL alienates herself if she chooses to disrespect parental rights. If she was simply praying before a meal which they do at my home or saying things like Jesus or God loves that is and would be fine by me, but she takes it too far and actively indoctrinates the child. I am sorry, but religious indoctrination is not small stuff. Our fore fathers believed it was a big enough issue to ensure our freedom religion in the Constitution.
I kind of get your point. BUt also… you see more than I do..SO i can't really say a lot..actually. I think I am tired of "liberal " indoctrination. It runs in the family. I am SO wrong because I am a conservative..yet I have NO hate for the Libs in my family. I figure..what is right for them..is right for them. Why Do I have to be wrong. Yeah. I get it. Hopefully it will all work out. Kiddo needs grand parents big time. I don't alienate my children from the "smoking" family but they don't come around…I invite…Oh well. I figure..as long as we don't try to keep them apart, it is up to the grandparents to try to be a part of their lives. Hopefully she can come to a middle ground. I am sure she loves her grandchild dearly (your child)
frankly I don't entirely believe that to be true. e.g. The Pope's support of Obama until Obamacare, Reverends Wright, Jackson and Sharpton, the glossing over of Dr. Martin Luther King's, and his father's, status as a conservative and a republican.
having said that I am fairly certain it's not relative. the public school system is bastion of government and therefore should have no right to political agenda, or really any preference at all, while the church is supposed to be a matter of the individual and it's personal beliefs are not expressed with the authority of being an arm of the goverment.
Captain Liberal you are a typical liberal – as soon as some asks you a question about your post you have to insult them, it is not the fault of other posters if your posts leave them with questions. You are a prime example of the Progressive way – keep stating your position, no matter how wrong or misleading it is then insult and attack anyone whose views disagree with yours.
Captain liberal? LOL! Did you come up with that all on your own or did someone help you? I am sorry but Debbie was the only one here you could act like I attacked and she was making some huge assumptions just like you.
You know, I don't understand why you feel it's necessary to call people names. I wasn't assuming, I was asking. You did see the question marks at the end of the sentences, didn't you? Certainly you have every right to not have your MIL preach to him. I'm just curious. At what age do you think children should learn about religion?
Then I made a false assumption myself and took the tone of your post the wrong way and apologize. As for your question I do not think there is any particular age that can be specified. The older the better in my opinion, but I leave that decision up to the child's parents. I prefer to wait as I have seen how impressionable children are. A relative of mine grew up thinking dinosaurs where angels pets because that is what her mother told her to avoid either a conversation about evolution or why the bible did not mention dinosaurs.
You see acting to type again…just sayin…I can't call you Captain America because so many liberal policies go against everything this country was founded on – I suppose come November you will be taking a few days off to celebrate Thanksgiving – which, as you will know if you attended a school where politics are left on the entrance, is the story of a group of people who came to America to escape the very religious bigotry that is being spewed out by the current administration…oh and BTW before you make assumptions I am not "religious", not been inside a church for years but I do strongly support their rights.
Well, thank you for the apology. Some parents don't want their children to believe in Santa or the Tooth Fairy or the Easter Bunny either. And that's also their perogative.
What do you mean acting to type? I apologized to Debbie for the misunderstanding and answered her question honestly. I haven o problem with religion and to each his own as I stated. What so called liberal ideas of mine have been anti-American? The idea a parent should have the right to raise their child as they see fit? The right of free expression of ideas? Can you be more specific as to what ideal I have expressed that goes against anything this country was founded upon? For someone who is calling out my "behavior" you are acting in the same manner you are accusing me of acting.
Re acting to type "Did you come up with that all on your own or did someone help you?"….
While I have been called worse in my time you did start your post off with the name calling did you not? I do not recall calling anyone any names in any of my posts. I did say Debbie was acting like ass, but pointing behavior even if I was mistaken as to her tone is not name calling. So get off your righteous horse and look in a mirror.
But you will let our government and future teachers lie to him and not teach the truth about our country???? You are okay with him paying debt because of an irresponsible administration and never be able to prosper because you beleive in socialism versus us all being responsible for our own destiny. It is because of parents like you that we have children today that think they are entitled to everything……it was a sad day 4 years ago and hopefully most will wake up and recognize that before we become Greece, Spain or Venezuela.
Brenda do not put words into my mouth. Why would you do such a thing? Is your self esteem so fragile that you have to fabricate talking points to feel better about yourself? Keep your lies and your delusions to your self.
Kids also have Big Bird and Sesame Street
There you go again…….
Yeah calling out a liar, but I guess you think I am worse than a liar.
Obama should never have been President(He is not a natural born citizen) Read the constitution! Those people should go to jail, and some of the ones runing the shools should be "FIRED!''But I'm not surprised by anything the "obama adminstration does, Time for a change! Vote Matt=2012!
He is a natural born citizen stop with the birther junk already. Heck the Clintons would of exposed him before the GOP if that was true.
ifyou checked into the story you will find it was the clintons that did expose the story first
Obama should never have been President(He is not a natural born citizen) Read the constitution! Those people should go to jail, and some of the ones runing the shools should be "FIRED!''But I'm not surprised by anything the "obama adminstration does, Time for a change! Vote Matt=2012!
This is how this administration rolls. They break the law, bend the law, circumvent the law. Anything to get what they want. Why should we be surprised when their supporters do it too?
OMG these democrats are doing something so wrong AND illegal…. so instead denouncing it and saying it's an embarassment to my party, I'll just point to something republicans did cause that's just how we roll! – Sincerely your liberal neighbor!
Was it a "flat out untruth" or was it a "minor fudge" Krugman? My guess is both. A lie is a lie period. But apparently the left feels there are different degrees of lying that seem to make it acceptable in their eyes. WOW!
Or is it only a bad lie when a Republican does it?
Oh whatever. No matter what Obama does…the media tries to hide it. Seriously. Lies???? How about the few Obama has been Caught with…….TRUE lies! Yeah. One Term presidency..HE SAID IT HIMSELF…well……Well…….
I guess by your reply you completely missed my point. You talk as if you think I am supporting Obama. You would be wrong in assuming that. I was making fun of the liberal Krugman from NY Times that basically called Mitt a liar but when he was asked about Obama lying he said they were "minor fudges" Make sure you know what you are talking about before you speak.
Dems have to lie A LOT to keep up with Romney's lie's in the debate.
Tell me one lie that Romney said. Now, be a good Polly and get back on Obamas shoulder so you can pick up some more false talking points; and I will give you a welfare cracker.
That comment was all you could add to the conversation??? Come back when you can get your IQ out of the teens.
This was intended for sean flat-head.
@ Michael…keep up with his lies yourself..he's your candidate. Go to fact check and you will see them all. A couple people are accused of fraud and suddenly they are Obama's personal reps the way Todd Starnes writes about it and you sheep just follow in line like you are supposed to. It appears Mr. OBryan you are the Polly. Todd Starnes shits a story and you eat it up.
@ Kelly..just keeping the IQ level where you and the other sheep can actually follow what is being said.
@ Michael…keep up with his lies yourself..he's your candidate. Go to fact check and you will see them all. A couple people are accused of fraud and suddenly they are Obama's personal reps the way Todd Starnes writes about it and you sheep just follow in line like you are supposed to. It appears Mr. OBryan you are the Polly. Todd Starnes shits a story and you eat it up.
@ Kelly..just keeping the IQ level where you and the other sheep can actually follow what is being said.
The only thing that would be surprising is if Omama or the liberals ever told the truth. They believe the end justifies the means. They have no conviction of right and wrong, fairness, or morality. They'll do whatever underhanded thing they can to win and congratulate themselves for their "brilliance".
Ariel, that's funny, because we LIberals say EXACTLY the same thing about you Conservatives! Go figure!?
I have never been so disgusted and appauled at the tone that comes from the liberals and administration. The President, liberals and main stream media behave as this is a popularity contest. It is disgusting what one administration has done to destroy our country, something that we Americans have been building for over 200 years. My 5 year old grandson is more mature then what I have been seeing out of this administration. How a party thinks I can work hard so we can redistribute and have a disctator in this country is mind boggling. Let's take this country back, put American's to work, get people off of food stamps, and let people beleive they can be the difference in their own life, not this out of control, over spending government we have in place today. I am tire of paying taxes for dead beats
Yeah Bush really DID screw up the country, huh, Brenda? Brought most of it into ruin in eight years. Obama's had a tough time undoing it, no doubt. But ya know what? You're plainly misinformed and have allowed your self-interested prejudice to warp your viewpoint and opinion. You know those "dead beats" that you so casually dismiss? A lot of them are–or were–good, hardworking people until your Bush killed our economy with two unfunded wars and a foolish tax break for all his rich buddies. He did precious little to halt the flight of jobs and companies out of this country–something Obama and this administration also tried to stop, but guess what? The Republicans voted AGAINST it. Damn the people, damn the workers, who cares about anybody but their own. Your trust is misplaced and your ire misdirected. If you had any sense at all you'd see the LIAR Mitt Romney is telling you just what he thinks you want to hear on any given day, and taking you for the fool that he thinks you are.
Interesting, the democrates got to sway voters without punishment, but we cannot let the GOP do the same thing! Wait, so what is to stop them the next time? Oh don't worry if it happens again we won't let the GOP get even then either, lol. I guess if you are first to do the crime you get a pass.
Wonder if these people explained how a McD's job was their future under o-Boob-o? Now with all this attention this wonderful elected board will be forced to do something. I only hope demofucks are stupid enough to continue all their crap this election. There are thousands signed up to watch at the polls.
An Ambassador was murdered in Libya by terrorist. Obama is running Big Bird TV ads against Romney. Vote an Adult for President. Vote Romney!
Milt, don't you mean "Vote for a LIAR; vote Romney"? The guy can't move his lips without lying.
Zizzz: you're a loser.
70 million Americans got to see the Real Romney and the Real Obama for 90 full minutes on Wed night. Gov. Romney looked more than ready to be President and had a PLAN to repair the damage to our nation for the last 4 years and bring back GROWTH and JOBS. Obama showed he had no real answer to 4 years of failure, and certainly NO PLAN for 4 more years. Just More DEBT and More Misery! Today Gallup told us that of the 70 million Americans who saw the debate 72% think Gov. Romney won overwhelmingly. 20% Obama. The most historic blowout in all of Presidential Debate History. Now we are hearing the whining, blaming, and excuses coming from the Obama campaign and the left. Here is some of the nonsense. 1. Gov. Romney lied – The Obama campaign and the freaked out left. 2. Obama's brain was Oxygen deprived in Denver – Al Gore. 3. Obama spent my million dollars on pot and was high – Bill Maher Take your pick they are all absurd. Obama really thinks he can recover by getting into the sewer again? Today we had the first poll out after the debate with Pew Research. Romney 49% to Obama 45%. A 4 point Romney lead among likely voters. The last Pew poll had Obama ahead 51 to 43. So this is a HUGE 12 point swing in Gov. Romney's favor. The American people saw reality on Wednesday night and found Obama unfit to be President. "When someone doesn't do the job you gotta let them go"!
Milt Cross : thoughtful response and I agree. However I am reminded of the statement made by, I forget who. Something to the effect that "it's not who casts the votes but rather those that count the votes". Therein lies our problem me thinks.
Hey, zzzzzzzzz.
Talk about pointing at a mirror. Obama has been spreading lies for as long as he's been in politics. He learned the Chicago way at a pretty young age.
He told a few fibs of his own during that debate. Like the study he says proves that Romney will have to raise taxes on the middle class. Turns out he screwed with the numbers. The guy who did the study said that the math was sound and that Romney would NOT have to raise the taxes and it would be neutral.
To correct your "quote", don't you mean "Vote for a liar; Vote Obama. In New York, Florida, and Illinois." Don't need an ID, so what the hell.
You idiots on the left need to update your game. All you can do is point fingers and hope your barrages will quiet down the opposition. But you always come up short with truth and facts that are verifiable. When looked in to, your evidence always seems to collapse. Unless it is checked by Move On, Huffington post or the AP army. The difference is that we know that they are Obama groupies and will never let their stories hurt their baby.
The exit polling in Venezuela on Sunday indicated that Chavez was losing by a substantial margin, but amazingly he ended up winning by 4%. Nobody really expected him to lose, radicals holding power don't lose elections.
Personally I think the 26th Amendment was a bad idea. Coming of age at 21 allowed HS kids to get some lfe experience before taking their place among the electorate. We used to teach civics in school too. Now they are just young skulls full of mush with no rite of passage to look forward to. Repeal the 17th Amendment too.
I agree on #26 Glenn, accept in the case of military personnel. They deserve the right to vote at 18. The 17th amendment covers the composition and terms of the Senate. Why would you want that repealed?
I agree on #26 Glenn, accept in the case of military personnel. They deserve the right to vote at 18. The 17th amendment covers the composition and terms of the Senate. Why would you want that repealed?
I'm just curious, when did Schools, and their boards, become sovereign lands? When illegal activities happen, you call the police. You Don't hem and haw and twist you little mind around to 'justify' and excuse illegal behavior. Maybe the parents need to take the stand and SUE the School, They allowed it and have done nothing to rectify the situation, if they won't do the right thing willingly, force their hand. I'm guessing real quick they will decide the police need to be involved to save their own butts.
Where's Eric Holder when you need him to uphold the law? We should hold everyone accountable and fire fire teacher's and jail the felon's.
It's just disgusting & intolerable! So tires of obama & his obamanites unceasingly bending the rules & and breaking laws to scratch out every vote the can! If this act doesn't scream desperation, nothing does. C'mon America! Wake up!!!
This is ACORN doing this, just under a different name, nothing else. The voter fraud, intimidation will continue and will get worse as O sees his throne slipping away. He passed a law to defund them, only to allow them to come back in the same offices/place and continue doing what they were doing. This guy is beyond believeable, a cheat and if he isn't going to uphold the laws of the U.S. then we need to let it be heard that we as citizens will not stand for it! Americans need to hold him accountable and complain to their Senators about everything! Show them at the polls in November and take those with you that would not otherwise vote! Romney/Ryan
These people should not have been allowed in the school period. If I were a parent, I would be asking for someone's resignation. Oh, we can pull religion and the pledge of allegiance out of our schools but we just lay down and let anyone come in to spew their ideals on our children?
Is there a chance to require the schools involved to have an assembly to inform the Young Adults that they were the subject of an illegal act. That they were preyed upon by persons willing to do anything to advance their cause.
It could possibly cause a backlash against the perpetrators and their candidate.
This isn't really news. Everyone remembers the Obama campaign committee of 2004, ACORN. And the many illegal voter registrations that were submitted. People registering to vote multiple times. And now we're hearing that the Obama campaign web site might be accepting foreign campaign contributions. Sound familiar? Gore and China? The monks? Hmmmmm
Like I said in another post, for the Party of the Jackass, being that their boy had his a55 handed to him in the last debate, in their minds, desperate times call for desperate measures — win at all costs.
This is just too off of the chain, and stinks of 'indoctrination'. These would actually be major crimes, that is why they are on the books the way they are. As a Floridian, I would demand that Pam Bondi, Attorney General, open an investigation immediately and get to the bottom of this. This is, in effect, a politically motivated crime perpetrated upon the people of the State of Florida.
He called them pansy-assed. the irony of it all, really!
It is very apparent there is a Obama troll on board here making unintelligent statements.
(Ex) Teachers also work at ACORN? Squirrels busy gathering nutz.
This election is tainted by the LIBERALS (SOCIALISTS ie COMMUNISTS), very very sad, If Romney can get in maybe these perverts will be removed and FREEDOM can REIGN once again in this GREAT NATION!
Milt stop with your lies ads have nothing to do with what happend in libya its mitt liar who try to score political points when armerica learn about the ambassoder being killed get your facts fucking straight before commenting on something that you know nothing about