Sep 24, 2012
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The president of Chick-Fil-A said they have not given in to the demands of gay marriage advocates in exchange for permission to build a new restaurant in Chicago.
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“Chick-fil-A made no such concessions and we remain true to who we are and who we have been, said Dan Cathy in a statement to Fox News Channel host Mike Huckabee.
Cathy said the company had not capitulated to the demands of supporters of gay marriage – in spite of media reports to the contrary.
“There continues to be erroneous implications in the media that Chick-fil-A changed our practices and priorities in order to obtain permission for a new restaurant in Chicago,” he said. “That is incorrect.”
The family-owned restaurant chain has been under siege by gay activists for weeks over its charitable giving to organizations that support traditional family values. Officials in a number of cities, including Chicago, vowed to block the company’s expansion efforts.
But last week, Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno announced that Chick-fil-A had agreed to stop funding those organizations. Moreno called it a “big win” – after he initially announced his intention to block their efforts to build a new restaurant in his district.
Those reports sparked immediate outrage among conservative Christians who posted messages on Chick-fil-A’s Facebook page. Hundreds of thousands had turned out over the summer to support the restaurant on a “Chick-fil-A Appreciation Day.”
“I’m disgusted that your faith is so weak,” wrote one irate diner. “You sure raked in the bucks on Chick-fil-A Day, huh?”
After several days of silence, the company released a statement saying their corporate giving had been mischaracterized.
“A part of our corporate commitment is to be responsible stewards of all that God has entrusted to us,” the statement read. “Because of this commitment, Chick-fil-A’s giving heritage is focused on programs that educate youth, strengthen families and enrich marriages, and support communities. We will continue to focus our giving in those areas. Our intent is not to support political or social agendas.”
Cathy’s latest statement has already generated fresh backlash.
The website Queerty posted a story with the headline: “Dan Cathy Confirms Chick-fil-A Still in the Business of Hate.
Moreno posted a statement online calling Chick-fil-A’s position “disturbing” and said it “muddied the progress we had made.”
“Perhaps Mr. Cathy felt that he could make these public statements to Mike Huckabee because I had provided a letter of support for his restaurant to the city of Chicago earlier this week,” he said. “I still need to introduce legislation to make the Chick-fil-A in the Logan Square neighborhood of Chicago a reality. I will wait to see what Mr. Cathy’s next public statement is, and reflect on that statement before moving forward with appropriate legislation.”
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YEA CHICK FIL A! not a business of hate but a business of love and standing firm on Word of God!
This is exactly what I surmised from the "news" article last week, and "Told ya so!" (Couldn't resist! lol) EW confirmed my take on it last Saturday as well. Apparently corporate sent out an email to operators to clear up any confusion. So glad we're standing firm!
Eat mor Chikin!!
Moreno and his bunch of low-brow, low-class pc hacks should go and pound sand before CFA decides to file a federal lawsuit against them for violating their constitutionally protected freedom of speech rights which Moreno is trying to suppress in order for CFA to receive his approval.
Moreno exemplifies the corruption and immorality of Chicago thug politics to a tee.
Pamela,
Evolve already and lay off the fried foods. Remember, your body is God's temple.
Pamela, that very same 'god' also commanded that any person who wears clothing made from two types of fibers be executed…
I'm sure you have plenty of spandex in your closet… What's your personal choice, burning or stoning?
dont eat there much cept when working there they are amazing to work for including the couple of gay guys we employed awesome! all are family there!
Lay off the hate truck there Dennis. Not going to make any converts to your ideology by attacking people. In fact, YOU create the opposite when you do.
John,
I just want equal rights, that you take for granted on a daily basis. It just get's a little old.
Jane Oklesh…… Me!! I KNEW that Dan Cathy would NOT back down!!
I figure that the left could NOT succeed in getting a boycott going that they would try another approach… try to convince the supporters of Chik fil A that Dan Cathy was backing down and giving in to the leftists!!
GREAT NEWS FOLKS the leftists are thwarted yet again!! YEAH!!!!!
EAT MOR Chikin!!! LOVE THAT CFA!!!
nancy,
There will always be someone to the left of you, they can't all be evil. Light satyrical humor.
If you're referring to Chick-fil-A menu as being unhealthy, you are mistaken. If you check out the fat content in their chicken sandwiches you will find out that they are quite low, even the fried sandwiches. And they also have grilled chicken sandwiches, salads, fruit, and cole slaw. Even their ice cream is fat free.
I am sure everyone goes there to Eat mor saladz.
Oh..so clever Dennis. Took you all of 30 seconds for that.
Dennis Fowler you homoNazis already have equal rights. You are demanding special rights based on your sexual perversions.
Would you like to compare our tax bill?
Nancy Warren "EAT MOR Chikin!!"–lol, the irony–Chik-Fil-A spells in a manner equivalent to the intelligence level of its moronic supporters!
LOVE THAT HEART DISEASE! LOVE THAT CHOLESTEROL!
Just say no to Bullying! No matter whom the bully is.
Who is tolerant and who is intolerant of the others views and beliefs in this situation?
Mr. Cathy has a right to his beliefs and if you want your beliefs respected you should respect his.
Chicago Alderman Joe Moreno may have overstated his claims. And now wants to back out by putting the blame of Chick Fil A. What else would you expect from a liberal? To tell the truth?
I just don't understand the use of the word "hate" in this situation. If I prefer to shop at one grocery store over another, does that mean I "hate" the other one? If I donate money to find a cure for childhood cancer, does that mean I "hate" adults? If I listen to a country music station, does that mean I "hate" rock n roll or classical? I just don't understand. Unless it's brainwashing. Hmmm……
So true!! This confuses me also. Just because I am not willing to advocate for something doesn't mean I hate it. It's just not something I am going to support.
But you are being rational. SO many liberals are so angry and bitter and self-serving that any of us who exercise our preferences are branded as pig-headed right wing nut cases! Recently had discussion with liberals who would not accept that some in the gay lifestyle are actually miserable and confused and WILLINGLY seek help, many even recognizing that they are NOT doomed to a lifetime of the GLT behavior. Instantly I was branded as one who would not accept the "truth" from the scientifically "proven" realm.
The libs use "hate" and "bigot" and "race card" anytime they are unable to force others to believe as they do. They scream about intolerance but are in fact the most intolerant themselves.
Tanya Garner Floyd :
Well Tanya, it might appear you were never meant to clean carpets in the first place.
Deb Bay
And religious nuts like to use words like "war" on religion whenever non believers share their opinion. Talk about another case of emphatetic exaggeration.
Deb Bay
And religious nuts like to use words like "war" on religion whenever non believers share their opinion. Talk about another case of emphatetic exaggeration.
only hate speech i have heard has been towards cfa not from cfa
Right, because we all know that Westboro Baptist church is so mainstream. Watch out, it's a slippery slope. What would happen if they contributed to organizations which limited the rights of churches? Then you would really speak up, I am sure. It's those darn liberals tryfing to force churches of the financial tax exempt teet of Government. Wow. Just listen to yourselves. Churches have had their hands out for so long with tax exempt staus, yet use this as a political funding machine.
why can't I hate sin; I love all people. If I didn't I wouldn't care if they changed. I do not hate Jerry Sandusky over the Penn State issue. I hate what he did.
Jesus never gave you permission to change people.
James Boyett
He did give you permission to lead by example however.
Huh? Dennis, was this meant as a slam on Tanya. If so, would ou be a little more specific in your comment so that all of us can enjoy your line of conversation.
Huh? Dennis, was this meant as a slam on Tanya. If so, would ou be a little more specific in your comment so that all of us can enjoy your line of conversation.
I live to provide enjoyment to you. Yes, for many a years, prior to the dawn of the internet, social conservatives and certain other factions of the population would commonly refer to lesbians in a not so endearing term. The use use of the word carpet was often used. I can speak from personal reference, since I spent the first 34 years of my life steadfastly studying scripture, earning my biblical degrees, meanwhil behind closed doors belittling gays and lesbians with such terminology. Not baking this from scratch. It was and is common place in the church to behave like this. Let us not be naive. We (including myself), often (in closed conversation) take pride in degrading others we often misunderstand, regardless of the context. This qualifies as the epitemy of what Christ shunned. Yet, it has become modern dogma.
Thankful to see this reply as it reflects my thougths exactly, specifically with regard to the cancer funding support and music.
It's called projection. HomoNazis hate you because you won't turn your back on good taste and common decency and celebrate their sexual perversions and they project that hate on you. homosexuals filter EVERYTHING through the prism of the sexual perversions and as a result, nothing hates like a homoNazi.
Dennis Fowler homoNazi do fund hate groups that seek to deny religious people the right to practice their religions. Try again.
Dennis Fowler homoNazi do fund hate groups that seek to deny religious people the right to practice their religions. Try again.
Dennis Fowler So you say then you demand that Christians call GOD a liar and change for your benefit.
Dennis Fowler So you say then you demand that Christians call GOD a liar and change for your benefit.
Worship until the cows come home. Please enjoy. Do not legislate morality. Secondly, and I am guilty of this as well, use spell check before hitting "reply". It is the online equivalent of tugging at your underwear in public. Funny thing is I probably laugh at myself more than all of you dissenters put together. Tough skin equals great social character.
Your analogy here makes absolutely no sense. Chik-fil-A donates to groups that are anti-gay, supporting those who dislike or hate gays. So no, if you chose to donate to a group against childhood cancer, it doesn't mean you hate adults. But if you chose to donate to a group that sought to discriminate against adults with cancer, you would be supporting the hate of adults with cancer.
See the difference?
Your analogy here makes absolutely no sense. Chik-fil-A donates to groups that are anti-gay, supporting those who dislike or hate gays. So no, if you chose to donate to a group against childhood cancer, it doesn't mean you hate adults. But if you chose to donate to a group that sought to discriminate against adults with cancer, you would be supporting the hate of adults with cancer.
See the difference?
Indeed, yes.
Indeed, yes.
Jeffrey D Davis
"It's called projection." Oh the irony lol.
Cris Bessette Glad you agree. Nothing hate like a homoNazi.
Tanya Garner Floyd There is NO "gay lifestyle", any more than there is a "Straight lifestyle". You are BORN either "gay"or "straight". It's scientifically proven, it's part of your brain's makeup, and you can't change that– and you should pity the poor people who feel compelled to adopt the facade of being "straight" because of a strong denial of who they really are, whether based on fear or rejection, fear of repercussion, or religious-based reason. Those people truly ARE "confused"—but confused about the reality of their biological urges as defined by society and ignorant religious people like YOU.
Don't be so quick to congratulate yourself on your choice to remain "ignorant".
Must be a Chick-fil-A publicity stunt because we all know homosexuals wouldn't lie to promote their agenda. They are the pillar of a moral society in the minds of the media.
Yes,
And we all know how religion has done so much to better society. See Jim and Tammy Faye baker. Jim Jones and others.
Dennis Fowler You are such a TROLL! I am hitting the spam button on ya!
Oh, the censor has entered the room. Only a matter of time.
May God bless you Dennis, I truly pray that he breaks your heart and brings you to your knees.
I am blessed already. I am more humble than you can imagine. And he did break my heart when he made me gay. Yet my daughter has found a way to love me anyway. What brings me to my knees is the lack of reason here. Everyone feels they get to legislate the behaviour of others.
Dennis Fowler christians are not perfect and do not claim to be. but they are forgiven…..heathen
And we all know what the ACLU has done eradicating God from the schools. See Columbine, Va Tech, and others. Or maybe you would prefer Sharia law?
When you attempt to legislate morality, you by default prop up a soap box.
The homosexual lobby has been legislating morality from their beginning. Remember.. It is you trying to convince us that you are normal, I don't have to say a thing. Even if there were no God as you seem to feel, nature abhors you. Just the facts, man!
The homosexual lobby has been legislating morality from their beginning. Remember.. It is you trying to convince us that you are normal, I don't have to say a thing. Even if there were no God as you seem to feel, nature abhors you. Just the facts, man!
I can only imagine Dennis sitting behind his computer pounding away on the keyboard in a fit of rage. Please don't censor him, he is way too entertaining.
yes Guy. because he must be a lunatic. Actually there is a subtle humor in all of this. In 100 years none of this will matter.
yes Guy. because he must be a lunatic. Actually there is a subtle humor in all of this. In 100 years none of this will matter.
David Hucke
I have already reproduced. So obviously not.
Dennis; during gay sex you conceived? Or did you lie to your female mate who gave birth to your offsping? Because we all know you were born that way, and did not just give in to lustful perversion.
Dennis; during gay sex you conceived? Or did you lie to your female mate who gave birth to your offsping? Because we all know you were born that way, and did not just give in to lustful perversion.
There is a Chick-Fil-A opening in my hometown! I cannot wait to get my sandwick. God bless Dan Cathy and his family!
Great,
Get Coronary disease, die and that wil be one less bigot in the world. Great way to make a point, lol
Great,
Get Coronary disease, die and that wil be one less bigot in the world. Great way to make a point, lol
Mr. Fowler, you are a typical liberal, wishing death on those that disagree with you. Have you even noticed how liberals spout hate, vulgarity and anger with anyone who disagrees with their views? So much for the party of "inclusion," liberals simply cannot discuss facts.
Wrongo,
Talk about labeling. I am a a libertarian. Fiscally conservative. (Nay to Obama). Socially liberal. (Nay to Romney). Would you welcome a gay person into your home?
Dennis Fowler OH shut up stupid moron!!
I feel the love.
Mr. Fowler, yes, I would, and have, welcomed gay people into my home and my life. I have a niece that is close to me and she is gay….that is the whole point. I don't agree with her choices however I will not wish her dead because I don't agree with her. That is what liberals do. Liberals are hate-mongers, they cannot accept that others have a right to disagree with them, so they threaten them, swear at them, wish them dead.
So Dennis Im noticing a common scene from you here. If you dont like what some has to say, you wish them bad health and to die…. As for letting you know I have some friends that are gay, does it bother me…NOPE. We get along, with each other we joke around and are great friends and have said from time to time that we are like borthers. My whole take is this, as long as you dont try and come on to me there is not a problem, just like religion. I dont care what or who you believe in, just dont come and try to convert me. Plane and simple.
Are you sure your not a liberetardian? ie a nay to Romney is the same as a yeah to Obama so actualy you are a liberal retard!
I thought only "liberals" called names.
Mike Brown
And yet you vote to limit their right to marriage, aka (happiness).
Dennis Fowler I vote based on my beliefs, both personal and as a Christian. Just because I do not agree with another person's lifestyle, it does not mean I will give up my beliefs. Those who disagree with me can vote also, we live in a Republic…if we can keep it. For further clarification, I do not support Starbuck's policy which encourages gay marriage, however I like their product so I CHOOSE to drink their coffee. Ben and Jerry (ice cream) are enviro wackos, but I like their product so I CHOOSE to eat their ice cream. That does not give me the right to decide if they should have a business in my town, I do not have the right to decide if you should be able to purchase their products….that is a democracy, that is freedom, that is America!!! Liberals want to take away choices of others, based on what they want..and that is morally wrong…!!!
Dennis, you are such a joke. I am extremely pro- gay rights and I still think you serve no purpose except to troll. All through my adult life I have come to realize that to find the chief bigot in any conversation, you need look no further than the person that throws the word around the most. You are incapable of a rational conversation, you rely mainly on misdirection, ad homenem attacks and a good ol' fashioned game of "I will make up what you believe because it helps me to feel more persecuted!" because it's the only thing you have.
Dennis, you are such a joke. I am extremely pro- gay rights and I still think you serve no purpose except to troll. All through my adult life I have come to realize that to find the chief bigot in any conversation, you need look no further than the person that throws the word around the most. You are incapable of a rational conversation, you rely mainly on misdirection, ad homenem attacks and a good ol' fashioned game of "I will make up what you believe because it helps me to feel more persecuted!" because it's the only thing you have.
Well said, Mr. Jones.
I have asked you to give up nothing. You ask me to give up the right to happiness.
Dennis Fowler
as long as they would sit down and listen to the story of soddom and gommorah and read for themselves the passages where homosexuality is reffered to as an abomination, then, as long as they accept the word of God, and turn from their evil ways, sure they would be welcome. and hey there Dennis, call it what itis. either homosexual or queer. gay is a term the perverts stole from me and i am furious about it. i can be gay as the next person, and enjoy being gay. but i sure am not a queer. give my word back.
as long as they would sit down and listen to the story of soddom and gommorah and read for themselves the passages where homosexuality is reffered to as an abomination, then, as long as they accept the word of God, and turn from their evil ways, sure they would be welcome. and hey there Dennis, call it what itis. either homosexual or queer. gay is a term the perverts stole from me and i am furious about it. i can be gay as the next person, and enjoy being gay. but i sure am not a queer. give my word back.
Chuck Jones
Fine, I will send you my tax bill discrepancy because I cannot marry whom I chose. We'll see if you like it. This is just one of many objections I have to persons who believe they have the right to legislate the freedoms of others.
Dennis Fowler are you like 12 years old or something?
Reality check for you. The word abomination comes from the term "unclean", or indefensible, in regards to the treatment of others. FYI, the whole S&G scenario was because of poor social skills of the time.
Already did Dennis….several of them as a matter of fact. However, that still does not mean I agree with their lifestyle, or their demands of marriage. What it does mean is that, as opposed to the gay/liberal population I can disagree with someone without trying to verbally/physically assault them or attack their way of making a living.
Dennis must have had a day off from work (if he even works)….he's been awfully busy!!!
Wrong again! I guess that's a state you are used to being in… you seem to find yourself there very often. I'm pro- gay marriage. I'm just opposed to obnoxious people who feel that the only way they can express their views is to show hatred and intolerance others… as you did in the first reply of this thread. Demanding tolerance while being intolerant of others is like having sex to promote virginity.
Dennis Fowler unclean…well there you go….good enough for me heathen.
Being unclean is not a sin, otherwise you would go to hell for the deposits you left in your diaper.
Mr. Fowler – Can you name any incidence at any time in any Chick-fil-a where a gay person has been treated differently than anybody else? I don't think so because it doesn't happen. Where they chose to donate the money their company makes is not any of your business. It's laughable that liberals talk about others having "a policy of hate" and at the same time say that somebody who disagrees with them should "get coronary disease and die" and call them a "bigot".
Chuck Jones
Chuck, how am I offensive. Does it offend you I think for myself?
I think Mr. Wages just made the point quite nicely.
I think Mr. Wages just made the point quite nicely.
Dennis Fowler what offends is your agenda. and FYI. the bible is the very breath of God. and soddom and gomorrah was a result of decadent behavior in the face of the Almighty
Dennis Fowler what offends is your agenda. and FYI. the bible is the very breath of God. and soddom and gomorrah was a result of decadent behavior in the face of the Almighty
Dennis Fowler what offends is your agenda. and FYI. the bible is the very breath of God. and soddom and gomorrah was a result of decadent behavior in the face of the Almighty
Dennis Fowler what offends is your agenda. and FYI. the bible is the very breath of God. and soddom and gomorrah was a result of decadent behavior in the face of the Almighty
Dennis Fowler what offends is your agenda. and FYI. the bible is the very breath of God. and soddom and gomorrah was a result of decadent behavior in the face of the Almighty
Dennis Fowler what offends is your agenda. and FYI. the bible is the very breath of God. and soddom and gomorrah was a result of decadent behavior in the face of the Almighty
Dennis Fowler Do the world a favor, stool sample. Commit suicide. Your parents will be so happy. One less hate pig infesting America.
Dennis Fowler Do the world a favor, stool sample. Commit suicide. Your parents will be so happy. One less hate pig infesting America.
So you wouldn't mind if I donated to the "Churches should pay taxes cause"?
What is it about Liberals/Democrats ( I used to separate them to some degree; I do not now) that murder in some manner is the answer to all of their dilemmas?
Jeffrey D Davis
Pointing and laughing. This could be civil, but NOOOOOH.
Dennis… who cares? It's free speech. Persecuting you for donating to a cause that you believe in would be no less reprehensible than the attack on Chick-fil-a for attempting to uphold values THEY believe in. I have a difficult time understanding why both sides in this seem to feel that it's okay to diminish the beliefs of others and demand that their own beliefs be observed because those beliefs are OBVIOUSLY "righter"
Dennis… who cares? It's free speech. Persecuting you for donating to a cause that you believe in would be no less reprehensible than the attack on Chick-fil-a for attempting to uphold values THEY believe in. I have a difficult time understanding why both sides in this seem to feel that it's okay to diminish the beliefs of others and demand that their own beliefs be observed because those beliefs are OBVIOUSLY "righter"
Not only would I welcom a gay person into my home, I RAISED one in my home that I proudly call my son! Now Mr. Fowler…take your brand of nonsense and stuff where your boyfriend can find it easily…Understand?
Not only would I welcom a gay person into my home, I RAISED one in my home that I proudly call my son! Now Mr. Fowler…take your brand of nonsense and stuff where your boyfriend can find it easily…Understand?
What you have not heard once from me at all in this entire string, is ask for something that is not already promised by our bill of rights. Equality. Pretty simple. I pay my fair share. I am accountable for my actions. I will never blame God for my mistakes. I have yet to ask only one thing from anyone. Equality. No more, no less. Very simple. Happiness is neither guaranteed nor required in life. But our founding fathers state that we all have equal rights to pursue that end. Stop legislating who I can marry.
What you have not heard once from me at all in this entire string, is ask for something that is not already promised by our bill of rights. Equality. Pretty simple. I pay my fair share. I am accountable for my actions. I will never blame God for my mistakes. I have yet to ask only one thing from anyone. Equality. No more, no less. Very simple. Happiness is neither guaranteed nor required in life. But our founding fathers state that we all have equal rights to pursue that end. Stop legislating who I can marry.
Allan,
oooh, my feelings are so hurt. Whitty, but really? You are no better than me. Stop pretending.
Dennis Fowler NO, nor would most other normal mainstream American people. You are so full of hate (or maybe AIDS) it has effected your thinking capability. You nor the whole crowd of perversionists will ever force anyone to see your lifestyle as normal – it is not. We don't cater to pedophiles or rapists either. When they discover that "phag" gene that makes people perverts then I will believe it is problem you are born with but as it stands that is strictly your personal choice. So same as any other choice, deal with it and leave normal to live normal lives.
Sandy Gaines
As the Bible states, pearls before swine. News Brief, America is not the world majority. It teeters on 50 / 50 for or against. Hardly a majority. Likewise I am so glad you are able to define what is normal is. Is it me or is this not absurd?
Sandy Gaines
As the Bible states, pearls before swine. News Brief, America is not the world majority. It teeters on 50 / 50 for or against. Hardly a majority. Likewise I am so glad you are able to define what is normal is. Is it me or is this not absurd?
Dennis Fowler at the mirror, right buttboy. I have no interest in being civil to a hate sow like you.
You are like the bully in 3rd grade. The only difference is in 3rd grade I carried my Bible to class all through High School. You would have been the bully spitting on me then. Nothing has changed, only your insecurities about life and death. It has made you turn to a name calling 3rd grader in adult skin. Enjoy your fear based life. You will have time to ponder when the great sleep cometh.
Mr. Fowler, This discussion is not about you being, or not being gay, or anybody else for that matter. It is about free speech, and the rights we all have to support the things we choose. Mr Cathy has not, as far as I know, issued an edict stating that his company is not to serve gay people, nor has he, in anything I have read, stated that he hates gay people. He has only said that he does not support gay marriage, just like a majority of Americans do not. You calling people in this forum "bigot" when no one has stated they hate gays, just that they do not support gay marriage only serves to prove you are not tolerant of others beliefs. Must we all believe what you do in order to be good people in your eyes? By the way, I would have, and have had gay people in my home, and have a few in my family, they know I do not support gay marriage, and do not hate me for it, just as I do not hate them because they are gay. Come up with a good argument and stop going to the old faithful liberal out of calling people, whom you do not agree with, names.
Mr. Fowler, This discussion is not about you being, or not being gay, or anybody else for that matter. It is about free speech, and the rights we all have to support the things we choose. Mr Cathy has not, as far as I know, issued an edict stating that his company is not to serve gay people, nor has he, in anything I have read, stated that he hates gay people. He has only said that he does not support gay marriage, just like a majority of Americans do not. You calling people in this forum "bigot" when no one has stated they hate gays, just that they do not support gay marriage only serves to prove you are not tolerant of others beliefs. Must we all believe what you do in order to be good people in your eyes? By the way, I would have, and have had gay people in my home, and have a few in my family, they know I do not support gay marriage, and do not hate me for it, just as I do not hate them because they are gay. Come up with a good argument and stop going to the old faithful liberal out of calling people, whom you do not agree with, names.
Ralph,
In a civil tone. I never made this about free speech or gay right, or donating or believing whatever. Look throughout my postings. Everything I have said is constitutionally based. Legislating morality is simply not right. BTW, I am not a liberal. I am a Libertarian. I believe in accountability and fiscal conservatism. I have raised my daughter to think for herself, and to reason. The problem I have is that I would never attempt to legislate what Chik Fil A does with their money. No one has. There is no referendum on any ballot to make them donate to gays. On the other hand, time and time again, you see legislation changing constitutions telling me whom I can marry. Can you not see this? I have not called anyone on this posting a single bad name. Yet, I get trash hurled at me constantly. Do you see a trend? I am and forever will be accountable for my actions.I DESERVE NO SPECIAL PRIVILEGES. I simply want to be treated civilly as an equal. Take some time and look at all of the postings with an open mind. See who the aggressors really are.
"…. listen to the story of soddom and gommorah and read for themselves the passages where homosexuality is reffered to as an abomination….. "
and then KEEP reading where Lot (the one "clean" guy in S/G) takes his daughters up to the mountains, gets drunk and bangs both of them and gets them pregnant with his incest babies. Not to mention that eating shrimp and lobster, wearing mixed fibers, planting more than one crop in a field, are ALL abominations in the same Bible book!!!
This is how the Bible works, pick what you want, ignore the rest.
Cris Bessette ..No, Lot and his family paid dearly for their sins.
Now I have a question for you. Romans chapter 1. "The Gospel is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes."
The Gospel is the blood sacrifice of Christ on the cross for your sins, the death of Christ on the Cross for the penalty of your sins, and the resurrection of Christ from the dead to justify you before God the Father.
Do you believe this?
Cris Bessette ..No, Lot and his family paid dearly for their sins.
Now I have a question for you. Romans chapter 1. "The Gospel is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes."
The Gospel is the blood sacrifice of Christ on the cross for your sins, the death of Christ on the Cross for the penalty of your sins, and the resurrection of Christ from the dead to justify you before God the Father.
Do you believe this?
I would send no invitation…
I would send no invitation…
Cris, what chapter and verse are you quoting? Or did you just make that up…cause I just revisited the story of Lot, S and G, etc. and nothing of that sort you reference is there at all. Source please?
Dennis Fowler the bible describes normal heathen. which, you are obviously not. i am sorry for your disgusting, depraved, perverted, evil choice for your life. but DO NOT sit here and try and tell normal people that it is o.k., because that is your choice. it is not o.k.. and i am sick of the minority telling the majority what to do. idea….get back in the closet, shut the door and keep your sickness to yourself. and dennis, it is sickness. no matter how deluded you are. and that is reality.
Dennis Fowler the bible describes normal heathen. which, you are obviously not. i am sorry for your disgusting, depraved, perverted, evil choice for your life. but DO NOT sit here and try and tell normal people that it is o.k., because that is your choice. it is not o.k.. and i am sick of the minority telling the majority what to do. idea….get back in the closet, shut the door and keep your sickness to yourself. and dennis, it is sickness. no matter how deluded you are. and that is reality.
But Dennis, you responded to someone stating they were glad Chic-fil-a opened in their hometown wishing they would die. Their comment had no anti-gay language in it at all–yet your response was pretty uncalled for. Your last comment makes sense–and there are extremists on both sides of the issue. Chic-fil-a is not to blame for who can and can't marry. Politicians are–they could have easily passed legislation rather than putting it to a vote–but they didn't (kinda like Obamacare). Gays need to realize that Christians are not their enemy. On the other hand, Christians–we need to realize that we are stepping on very shaky ground when we try to preach from a pulpit we were not ordained to preach from. Judge me however you will. If you believe that you will one day be judged by God–and you are comfortable that He will be ok with some of the hatred I've seen (just on this comment section)–so be it.
Joe Ensminger Genesis 19 verses 30-38 http://www.religioustolerance.org/chrincest.htm
Joe Ensminger Joe Ensminger Genesis 19 verses 30-38 http://www.religioustolerance.org/chrincest.htm (of course the Bible says the girls got him drunk, then took advantage of HIM, but any man that has ever been THAT drunk could not keep an erection up to get anyone pregnant) Not to mention that earlier in the S/G story Lot (the good guy) offered his daughters to the crowd so that they could rape them.
Les Redmon
"The Gospel is the blood sacrifice of Christ on the cross for your sins, the death of Christ on the Cross for the penalty of your sins, and the resurrection of Christ from the dead to justify you before God the Father.
Do you believe this? "
You left out some important details:
First:
I would have to believe that a woman named Eve, having the innocent mind of a child, disobeyed God ONE time,after being talked into it by a TALKING SNAKE (that God mysteriously didn't know was in HIS OWN garden) , having no idea of consequences, sin, etc. , leading God, in his rage, to damn the WHOLE human race FOREVER.
(Not to mention God is "omniscient", so he knew this would happen all along. )
Second:
In order to provide a "cure" for the concept of "original sin" (which he also created), God impreganted a teenage girl, who then gave birth to himself (dressed as a baby) , This baby God was then named Jesus, who then grew up to be killed by God/himself in order to appease himself for his hatred of his own creation.
The whole Christian obsession with blood and death and making God into an egotistical psychopath baffles me. So… no , I don't believe that.
The only thing that is obvious to any reasonable person here is that the Liberal media and the homosexual activists are in the business of distortion and misinformation.
I would love to be able to legislate who you marry. Wait, you already do that through the strong arm of the law yet protest when government involves itself in your personal life. Talk about contradiction.
There is no contradiction whatsoever. You cannot legally marry your sibling, cousin, parent, child, dog or cat either. Is that "legislating who you marry"? No. Marrage has a simple legal definition: one man, one woman. It has been that way for thousands of years of recorded history. It is just that simple.
Jeff – Don't you realize that Dennis knows more than everyone in the past 5000 years who knew that marriage was instituted by God to be between a man and a woman?
Jeff Coil homosexuals like other perverts, including those who engage in pedophilia, incest, bestiality, coprophagia, necrophilia, bigamy etc are not entitled to special rights based on their sexual perversions.
Ed Wages
Yes Ed, and as a person with God like psychic skills, I know exactly his thoughts on the matter, really? Do you pretend to know the mind of God, and really how old is the world?
Dennis Fowler Actually idiots, we know the mind of GOD regarding homosexuality. He judges homosexuals for us and found you severely lacking.
Dennis, sorry, but you are free to marry, (or not), all the same people I am free to marry.
You cannot marry your desk just to lower your taxes.
Tax incentives are given specifically to encourage child-bearing unions. That is the governments only vested interest.
To be honest, i think income taxes should be done away with, along with the IRS, and naturally an y associated tax incentives… I'm sure you'll be happy to know.
Ed, the law cannot state that marriage is between a man, woman, and a god. Any law that did so would be unconstitutional. Atheists can get married. Nowhere in the legal definition of marriage is god mentioned, because a law that includes god is unconstitutional.
Both Jeffs, you are using a logical fallacy by attempting to show how something is wrong by extending its consequences to ridiculous conclusions. Here's why claiming gay marriage will lead to,marriage to minors, inanimate objects, animals, dead people, is false.
Marriage is between two consenting adults, as any contract is. A minor cannot consent to a contract, nor can an animal, nor can an inanimate object. No marriage can ever be legal if one party does not consent. And again, a child, animal, dead body, or any inanimate object cannot consent
Jeffrey D Davis – For who among men knows the thoughts of a man except the man's spirit within him? In the same way no one knows the thoughts of God except the Spirit of God. 1 Cor. 2:11
No, this is not about God, I've seen your comments, this is personal for you.
Ferg Blotter BS, the perversion of homosexuality is no different than the perversions of pedophilia, bestiality, necrophilia, incest, bigamy, etc.
A son could consent to marry his mother, multiples can consent to marry a dozen people and you don't get to speak for animals or inanimate objects.
Nobody says you perverts cannot make some type of legal contract with each other, but you are not deserving of gov recognition of your sexual perversions.
Cris Bessette Don't even try thinking for your betters, idiot. You have more than enough trouble thining for yourself. We know GOD's thoughts regarding homosexuality because he told us about them
NO marriage has not been defined like that for thousands of years Jeff. Go look it up. ALso Marriage has not been defined for the past 1000 years, it has evolved to where it is now (go look it up). Also we are not a theocracy. We have freedom of religion which also means freedom from religion. Quit inserting your religious beliefs into the law for us all.
Ferg Blotter Brother and sister can consent. Your argument fails
I think the problem here is that the law is defining the term "marriage" whereas the supporters for and against are fighting over the act. This is further muddled by some states asking voters to define "Civil Union." The problem is that "Civil Union" could mean lots of things–not neccessarily same-sex couples. Homosexuals need to understand where to place the blame for the laws regarding same-sex marriage. Blame it on politicians who have done a very poor job of representing you–they've turned a fight over a word into a fight over an act. So let's remove the issue. Define marriage as the legal union of a man and a woman. Define some other word as the legal union of a same-sex partnership. Marriages happen in every religion all over the world–it is ridiculous for someone to single out one religion in one country as being hateful.
Jeff Coil Hey, we used to own slaves, too. Better get used to "change"; it's coming, BIG TIME regarding Marriage. It's just a matter of time; kids today really don't give a flying ffff about it.
The blame can be placed on bigots using their religion to deny someone a civil right. Marriage is a function of the law. I can go to the courthouse and get married with absolutely no religion involved, none. I don't want religion involved. Nowhere in the law does it say that marriage includes a covenant with god, because it cannot, because there is separation of church and state.
You can't say okay gays can't get married, but they can have a civil union which is the same thing. As we know, separate is not equal.
What people arguing against gay marriage need to understand is that the law will not say that churches, synagogues, mosques, or whatever will have to marry a gay couple.
So here's he question. If I, an atheist, can get married at a courthouse with absolutely no god involved, why can't a gay couple?
Religious morality should never be used to deny anyone their pursuit of happiness, or enter into the law.
Eat mur chiken.
YES!! And we ust had lunch at CFA while on a shopping trip on Saturday and breakfast there on Wednesday. We find ourselves going there MUCH more often since the gays started trying to boycott!! ANd I love the CFA chiken salad so much we bought some to take home on Saturday…so we could take it on a picnic yesterday!
Keep buying CFA everybody!! Let's show the leftist WHO is in charge here!!
They can just eat whatever other fast food crap they want over at Arby's!!
Your not in charge of my life, thank God.
Dennis Fowler Which God would that be, the gay loving God, or the gay hating God?
Dennis Fowler Which God would that be, the gay loving God, or the gay hating God?
Eat mur chiken.
I'm an atheist and a social conservative and I don't support gay marriage. I'm glad you've stood up against the liberal agenda.
Liberal agenda, conservative agenda. Don't act like you don't have an agenda.
You sir are a true gentleman. THANKS!
Most of these people are just crazy and ignorant with their handed-down bullshit. You, sir, have no such excuse. Explain a rational and evidence-backed belief for preventing homosexuals from entering into the civil state of marriage, now.
Most of these people are just crazy and ignorant with their handed-down bullshit. You, sir, have no such excuse. Explain a rational and evidence-backed belief for preventing homosexuals from entering into the civil state of marriage, now.
I don't get it. Social conservatism is a fancy way of saying " I want to control other people's lives." If there was a social conservative club in your town, they wouldn't let you join, because, you know, atheists are evil and eat babies and squish kittens. lol
MY "liberal agenda" is that YOU and EVERYONE have the SAME RIGHTS, no matter how ANYONE ELSE feels about you having rights.
I don't get it. Social conservatism is a fancy way of saying " I want to control other people's lives." If there was a social conservative club in your town, they wouldn't let you join, because, you know, atheists are evil and eat babies and squish kittens. lol
MY "liberal agenda" is that YOU and EVERYONE have the SAME RIGHTS, no matter how ANYONE ELSE feels about you having rights.
Hogwash. Liberalism is all about control. Controlling speech through political correctness. Controlling information through an overwhelmingly liberal-biased media in print and on television. Controlling what we eat and drink by making laws to protect us from ourselves. Controlling free thought by forcing people to accept things they don't believe in through fear of losing one's job and reputation, along with possible jail time through hate crime legislation. Liberals seek to destroy every social norm and reshape society into what they view as correct, a socialist state where government attempts to acheive "equality" through the redistribution of wealth from those who work to those who don't/won't work, a state where the murder of the unborn is fine but asking a non-English speaking immigrant in an auto accident to provide ID and proof of immigration status is a form of bigotry, a state where mother – father has been removed from new birth certificates to accomodate homosexuals who can't even have children together, now showing partner 1 and partner 2, and so on. You don't want equal rights for everyone. You want expanded rights for certain groups of people. You want to expand the definition of marriage beyond the fact of human biology that it's based upon, offspring come from heterosexual procreation. You want certain groups to be protected from being offended and certain groups to be punished through the government if one of said groups is offended. Liberalism has nothing to do with freedom. It's all about people like you using the government to force everyone to think and believe like you do, just like religious extremists have been doing for ages.
Your response is about what I expected. I think you titled it correctly with the first word, "Hogwash".
I asked directly for one thing in a specific and distinct way. What rational and evidence-backed belief demands that our society _not_ allow homosexuals to enter into the civil state of marriage. I didn't ask about economics, or immigration, or abortion. I specifically didn't even ask about religious ceremonies. If the only reason you oppose gay marriage right now is because it is something you think "liberals" like, or you think homosexuals are icky and shouldn't be able to be happy in the same ways as you, you are twice the failure of every failed human being on this page.
So, answer the fucking question or learn to live with the fact your name is synonymous with unethical, subjective cowardice.
http://www.foxnews.com/world/2012/09/25/france-set-to-ban-words-mother-and-father-under-plans-to-legalize-gay-marriage/?test=latestnews
France to ban terms "mother" and "father" on legal documents. This is liberalism at it's worst. Western civilization is doomed.
Far right conservatives want to make all people fit their social and religious viewpoints.
Far left liberals want to protect people from themselves, like it or not.
(Both will stomp on people's rights)
I agree with many of the points you made, I just don't agree with the underlying assumption of "left bad!" "right good!"
Social norms? Remember blacks having to sit in the back of the bus? women having less value than men? Those WERE social norms that changed because they were bad social norms. Social norms are not carved in stone and brought down from the mountain.
If marriage is based only on one's ability to have children, as you implied, then women with hysterectomies or tied tubes, men who have had their nuts cut off in a horrible gardening accident are ineligible for marriage. I thought marriage was about making a statement of love and devotion, not "I can make sperm! Hey I can make eggs!- we should get married!"
As for "people like you" really?? Are you one of "those people"??? lol
Far right conservatives want to make all people fit their social and religious viewpoints.
Far left liberals want to protect people from themselves, like it or not.
(Both will stomp on people's rights)
I agree with many of the points you made, I just don't agree with the underlying assumption of "left bad!" "right good!"
Social norms? Remember blacks having to sit in the back of the bus? women having less value than men? Those WERE social norms that changed because they were bad social norms. Social norms are not carved in stone and brought down from the mountain.
If marriage is based only on one's ability to have children, as you implied, then women with hysterectomies or tied tubes, men who have had their nuts cut off in a horrible gardening accident are ineligible for marriage. I thought marriage was about making a statement of love and devotion, not "I can make sperm! Hey I can make eggs!- we should get married!"
As for "people like you" really?? Are you one of "those people"??? lol
Far right conservatives want to make all people fit their social and religious viewpoints.
Far left liberals want to protect people from themselves, like it or not.
(Both will stomp on people's rights)
I agree with many of the points you made, I just don't agree with the underlying assumption of "left bad!" "right good!"
Social norms? Remember blacks having to sit in the back of the bus? women having less value than men? Those WERE social norms that changed because they were bad social norms. Social norms are not carved in stone and brought down from the mountain.
If marriage is based only on one's ability to have children, as you implied, then women with hysterectomies or tied tubes, men who have had their nuts cut off in a horrible gardening accident are ineligible for marriage. I thought marriage was about making a statement of love and devotion, not "I can make sperm! Hey I can make eggs!- we should get married!"
As for "people like you" really?? Are you one of "those people"??? lol
So predictable. You've compared an obvious medical issue affecting a very small portion of the population, infertility or injury/deformation of genitalia, to the undeniable fact that two men or women cannot have children because they are biologically incompatible, period. It's a ridiculous comparison. The infertile hetero couple are still male/female, and through modern science many fertility issues can now be over come. The same can't be said for gay couples who will NEVER be able to have children together. What you nor any other proponent of gay marriage wants to admit is that the medical community largely agrees that homosexuality is, in most if not all cases, a developmental abnormality caused by under/over exposure to certain hormones in early developal stages within the womb. Marriage, the central institution of human society for millenia, should not be redefined to accomodate a small segment of people born with an abnormality. Think of it this way. Odds are that due to your genetic make-up there will be many things you aspire to do but will never be able to. You may never dunk a basketball, become a world class swimmer, be head of the National Black Caucus, whatever. Do you protest and demand the rules be changed to accomodate you even though you're short, slow, and white? Or do you accept that you don't fit the criteria to acheive these things? By the way, marriage has never been solely about love. One of the biggest parts of the marriage bond is the recognition of maternity/paternity of children and the establishment of heirs for inheritance and titles, for instance royal titles.
Also, I never said I agree with conservatives on everything. I don't like how much influence corporations have in Washington. I don't believe that religion has any place in schools or the government. I support stricter gun control. I honestly did not like George W. Bush at all and blame him for a lot of the issues we have today. I just cannot support the Democrats because of their liberal social policies.
So predictable. You've compared an obvious medical issue affecting a very small portion of the population, infertility or injury/deformation of genitalia, to the undeniable fact that two men or women cannot have children because they are biologically incompatible, period. It's a ridiculous comparison. The infertile hetero couple are still male/female, and through modern science many fertility issues can now be over come. The same can't be said for gay couples who will NEVER be able to have children together. What you nor any other proponent of gay marriage wants to admit is that the medical community largely agrees that homosexuality is, in most if not all cases, a developmental abnormality caused by under/over exposure to certain hormones in early developal stages within the womb. Marriage, the central institution of human society for millenia, should not be redefined to accomodate a small segment of people born with an abnormality. Think of it this way. Odds are that due to your genetic make-up there will be many things you aspire to do but will never be able to. You may never dunk a basketball, become a world class swimmer, be head of the National Black Caucus, whatever. Do you protest and demand the rules be changed to accomodate you even though you're short, slow, and white? Or do you accept that you don't fit the criteria to acheive these things? By the way, marriage has never been solely about love. One of the biggest parts of the marriage bond is the recognition of maternity/paternity of children and the establishment of heirs for inheritance and titles, for instance royal titles.
Also, I never said I agree with conservatives on everything. I don't like how much influence corporations have in Washington. I don't believe that religion has any place in schools or the government. I support stricter gun control. I honestly did not like George W. Bush at all and blame him for a lot of the issues we have today. I just cannot support the Democrats because of their liberal social policies.
So predictable. You've compared an obvious medical issue affecting a very small portion of the population, infertility or injury/deformation of genitalia, to the undeniable fact that two men or women cannot have children because they are biologically incompatible, period. It's a ridiculous comparison. The infertile hetero couple are still male/female, and through modern science many fertility issues can now be over come. The same can't be said for gay couples who will NEVER be able to have children together. What you nor any other proponent of gay marriage wants to admit is that the medical community largely agrees that homosexuality is, in most if not all cases, a developmental abnormality caused by under/over exposure to certain hormones in early developal stages within the womb. Marriage, the central institution of human society for millenia, should not be redefined to accomodate a small segment of people born with an abnormality. Think of it this way. Odds are that due to your genetic make-up there will be many things you aspire to do but will never be able to. You may never dunk a basketball, become a world class swimmer, be head of the National Black Caucus, whatever. Do you protest and demand the rules be changed to accomodate you even though you're short, slow, and white? Or do you accept that you don't fit the criteria to acheive these things? By the way, marriage has never been solely about love. One of the biggest parts of the marriage bond is the recognition of maternity/paternity of children and the establishment of heirs for inheritance and titles, for instance royal titles.
Also, I never said I agree with conservatives on everything. I don't like how much influence corporations have in Washington. I don't believe that religion has any place in schools or the government. I support stricter gun control. I honestly did not like George W. Bush at all and blame him for a lot of the issues we have today. I just cannot support the Democrats because of their liberal social policies.
I was just making the point that production of children as a prerequisite for marriage is not a supportable argument because even "traditional" marriages don't necessarily lead to children.
"The medical community largely agrees" that they have NO CONSENSUS on causes for homosexuality. http://www.apa.org/helpcenter/sexual-orientation.aspx
http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=homosexuality-cure-masters-johnson
I'm having difficulty finding any logical or evidential support for your claim.
When "traditional marriages" end in divorce at a rate of 50%, and some gay couples have been together for decades, who am I to say who is really in love and who is "abnormal"?
Atheism is a philosophy that is decidedly untraditional, "un patriotic"(George Bush), not to mention "abnormal" in a sea of Christianity.
People like us will NEVER be elected to any public office we may run for. Yet American "tradition" dictates that atheists are unfit for public office.
So "tradition" is also illogical support for social change.
I have to say that I am fascinated by people that want to join clubs that don't want them: Atheist social conservatives, black KKK members, Rednecks at the golf club, Gay Baptists, Bikers in the quilting club,etc.
I don't agree with liberals on everything, I don't agree with the demonization of Chic-fil-A , with forced health care mandates, etc.
You missed the point completely. It takes heterosexual procreation to make create children, and thus a family. This is why marriage is built upon heterosexual relationships. A hetero couple may choose not to have children, or maybe unable to because of a medical condition, but they are still a heterosexual couple. Gays couples cannot have children together, period. They are biologically incompatible, period. Stats show that there are roughly 1.2 million gays in a commited relationship, around 600,000 gay and lesbian couples. That's out of over 300 million people in the US. I don't feel that marriage, the most central institution in human civilization, should be redefined, or the titles "mother" and "father" banned, to make this small segment of society feel better about themselves.
Both links you've posted are about homosexuality being a pyschological disorder, which I never said it was. Most within the medical community agree that it's caused by abnormal brain chemistry and an abnormal exposure to certain hormones within the womb during development: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenatal_hormones_and_sexual_orientation
The whole 50% of marriages ending in divorce is an overblown statistic. It's actually somewhere closer to 40-45% and still, out of those gays who've gotten married there's been a lot of divorces. It's not as if gays will value their marriages more and all have long lasting unions. They would just muddy the waters even more, causing new kinds of disputes, more difficult custody battles, etc.
I would argue that atheism is our natural state and only through indoctrination does one become a Christian, Muslim, etc. Sure, there is a huge stigma against non-believers but this is a difference of opinion within the realms of science/philosophy. Homosexuality is a demonstrable physiological abnormality and I don't feel that marriage should be redefined because of it.
Conservatism isn't a club that you join. It isn't like getting a PGA tour card or paying for a membership to AAA. I've looked at the big issues of the day and formed an opinion on them and most, not all, tend to be on the conservative side. Despite the liberal polls you see on TV that say support for gay marriage is about 50/50, in EVERY single state where it's been on the ballot it's been voted against. Only through liberal activist judges has it been ruled legal anywhere at all. You talk about freedom. When Proposition 8, which passed overwhelmingly in the most liberal state in the US, is overturned by a self-professed gay judge and claims no personal bias, that's not freedom. But, that is the way of liberalism.
"Freedom to all the people brave true and strong freedom to all the people unless I think you are wrong!" They have the right to their opinions just as the gay marriage supporters have the right to theirs. The only hate is coming from Gay Marriage supporters Chick-fil-a is just stating they don't believe in it. I don't get why this is such a big deal. For a group of people that are all about acceptance they sure don't have any.
Yet conservatives embargo'd JCPenny when they said they would add certain "Ellen " branded items to their lineup. You can't have it both ways.
Yet conservatives embargo'd JCPenny when they said they would add certain "Ellen " branded items to their lineup. You can't have it both ways.
I'm conservative and shop at JCP. Oh the distress you must feel as the fabric of your own hateful beliefs tear in front of your eyes. Troll on troll bait.
Let's not girate.
Please read.
http://www.theblaze.com/stories/here-are-7-other-faith-based-boycotts-against-american-companies-in-addition-to-chick-fil-a/
Insert crickets here…..
Insert crickets here…..
Came over to see how the brainwashed viewers of Fox News are thinking.. If a company came out and said "we support the promotion of Atheism in society in hopes of our children having a chance to think for themselves" .. I'm sure you all would be fine with that; yall being so tolerant of others and all. Personally I dont give a damn. Aint my business to give a damn what another person thinks is right or moral. Am I going to do business with them..no, not because they are antigay, but because I dont like anybody who stands on a soap box and tries to tell others what is right and moral.
You fail to recognize that some people form opinions based on the behavior of the activists rather than religious purposes. In this case, you're the only one here "girating" which is not even a word. You're trucking hate, exactly what you accuse PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU of doing. The textbook definition of hypocrite. And look… you're also the only moron to bring religion into the debate. Have a nice day.
You fail to recognize that some people form opinions based on the behavior of the activists rather than religious purposes. In this case, you're the only one here "girating" which is not even a word. You're trucking hate, exactly what you accuse PEOPLE WHO DISAGREE WITH YOU of doing. The textbook definition of hypocrite. And look… you're also the only moron to bring religion into the debate. Have a nice day.
Forgive my misspelling. I am sure you get the gist.
Fowler: You are totally screwed up in your ability to analyze facts. There is IMMENSE differences between a boycott and the actions of an elected official. Are you so dense you can't objectively discuss the actuall circumstances at hand?
Fowler: You are totally screwed up in your ability to analyze facts. There is IMMENSE differences between a boycott and the actions of an elected official. Are you so dense you can't objectively discuss the actuall circumstances at hand?
Dennis Fowler and i still won't shop there or home depot.
Dennis Fowler and i still won't shop there or home depot.
Actually we can have it both ways, it's called freedom. I can chose where I will and will not spend my money. That is why lefties want the government to confiscate more of our earnings so we have less freedom and no choice.If you don't like Chik-Fil-A, don't eat there and you are free to encourage others to do likewise. If you like what JCPenney did, shop there more. But wishing death on someone who disagrees with you just makes you an asshole!
Actually we can have it both ways, it's called freedom. I can chose where I will and will not spend my money. That is why lefties want the government to confiscate more of our earnings so we have less freedom and no choice.If you don't like Chik-Fil-A, don't eat there and you are free to encourage others to do likewise. If you like what JCPenney did, shop there more. But wishing death on someone who disagrees with you just makes you an asshole!
LOL, not many Lowes in my areas…
Jim, I see nowhere in the site you linked where a politician was allowing/disallowing a company to operate just because of the owners views. The public has ALWAYS called for boycotts for various reasons and THAT is the power of the people standing up for what they believe. The main issue here is the fact that politicians are using THEIR power in order to try and put capitalism out of business. This is where a majority of the rage comes from and not the thought that people want to boycott Chick-fil-A. The article you have responded to just shows how the liberals are all about themselves and refuse to respect others beliefs when it does not match theirs.
I never even heard about the JCPenny's boycott and I think it is stupid as well. But the main point is that people want free speech only when it supports their opinion. People want equal rights yet they have gay rights, black rights, women rights, Indian rights. Why not just have rights that are equal for everyone. Why do we have to call out a certain group. I get tried of people screaming for rights but what they are screaming for is special treatment, and then cry when someone states the opposite. By the way this is on both the conservatives and the liberals.
Dennis Fowler – nobody is talking about wanting to force anybody to eat at Chick-fil-a. And nobody is forcing anybody to shop at JCP.
High 5. We are on the same page.
Dennis Fowler If people choose NOT to shop somewhere – it's their choice, is it not? Why is it gays try to shove their lifestyle on others???? Look – I don't peek in your bedroom – don't agree with it – but I leave you alone. The gays appear to be in the "bullying" mode – if you don't say and agree with me – you are a hater, a bigot, etc.,etc. etc. Why??? Agree to disagree!!! BTW – I believe Chick Fil-A CEO was speaking to a Christian radio or magazine and DID NOT pick a fight with the gay community. I don't go to LGBT news or magazines and get my dander up about what is said and make a big stink about it!!!! If gays feel so persectuted – perhaps learning some manners and how to treat others would go a long way to bring you all some peace.
Matthew Ballard Why do you useful idiots who infest the democRAT trailer park hate FOX News viewers for being informed? We don't hate you for being stupid. No doubt Chick-fil-A will go broke by losing your $3.
But, and listen closely. You will vote to limit who a person can marry?. A simple yes or no will do?
Catherine Marie Elledge-Pangburn
Ok, Ok, I'll come to your house and re-decorate. Would that help?
Dennis Fowler…Chick Fil A has realized record earnings since the Gay boycott was announced. I hear that Hobby Lobby is now on your list. I just bought a ton of their stock! Hahahahahahahahaha
Dennis Fowler…Chick Fil A has realized record earnings since the Gay boycott was announced. I hear that Hobby Lobby is now on your list. I just bought a ton of their stock! Hahahahahahahahaha
Should my feelings be hurt? Really? Yes, and gay porn has seen 1000% increase iin the last 10 years. Tit, tat, wow. We have come so far. I would rather put my money in technology and medicine.
Should my feelings be hurt? Really? Yes, and gay porn has seen 1000% increase iin the last 10 years. Tit, tat, wow. We have come so far. I would rather put my money in technology and medicine.
I just do not understand what the big deal is. We as individuals are protected by the Constitution to have our own thoughts and opinions; when did this change for Businesses? They earn their own money and can spend it however they want. Saudi Arabia believes homosexuality is punishable by death. Does that mean we are going to stop purchasing oil and start slandering their name and personal values? No. I honestly think everyone out there needs to get over it.
EXACTLY!!
Great reply !! I agree with you… I do not see any gays giving up the use of their cars over the use of " the homosexual hating Saudis' oil in the making of gasoline by American oil companies…. typical selective boycotting of the leftists!
Excellent.
The only Constitutional issue involved here is the Chicago alderman who is blocking a permit for Chick-fil-a to open a store because he disagrees with who they donate their own money to. I can't wait until this reaches the courts.
This is still a FREE country and government officials should not block free-enterprise because of their own life-style choices. Stick to your guns Mr. Cathy, my family loves Chic-fil-A and support your Christian values.
I'm going to go out on a limb and guess that like most fervent homophobes, Mr. Cathy is a actually plagued by homosexual desires and a few pictures from his 'encounters' have surfaced….
It's only a matter of time until the same thing happens to Starnes and Hannity….
If you like Chick-fil-A food, eat there if you want. If you don't like the food, don't eat there. Same as JC Pennys. Shop there, don't shop there. Disney – go there or don't go there. It's a freedom of choice. You don't agree with a particular "agenda," that's fine. Mr. Cathy was specifically asked his opinion, and he shared it. It's his buisness, he can support whatever he wants. He's not holding a gun to your head and saying "Eat here, but if you're homosexual or don't agree with my stand, don't bother coming here."
I won't. I prefer to select foods that make me healthy.
I won't. I prefer to select foods that make me healthy.
Would that everyone would select healthier food choices.
Dennis Fowler NOTHING you ever eat will make YOU healthy …liberalism is a social and mental disease.
Michele Bryson Knear…I really like FREE choice of my food. I eat what is good for me… I love peanuts… some folks are allergic. I am allergic to fish and kiwis… but other folks are not…. so , healthy means different things to different folks. I know people who cannot eat any nuts or corn … I know people who cannot eat wheat or even drink cows milk and another person allegeric to RICE! Decisions have to left to the people and that leftist guy's approach is weird… why? Because their happen to be some people who need fats in the diet and though they are rare…. who the heck is he to say all fats food is bad for people????
Hail Hitler, Lord Almighty.
Nancy, agreed.
If a company came out and said "we support the promotion of Atheism in society in hopes of our children having a chance to think for themselves".. I'm sure you all would be fine with that; yall being so tolerant of others and all. Personally I don't give a damn. Ain't my business to give a damn what another person thinks is right or moral. Am I going to do business with them..no, not because they are antigay, but because I don't like anybody who stands on a soap box and tries to tell others what is right and moral.
Why are you atheists so hateful and contrary?
I am not an atheist. How was I hateful or contrary?
Either Moreno or Mr. Cathy is lying. There is a 99.9% probability that it is Moreno, him being nothing but a Chicago politician.
You said lie and Chicago Politician in the same sentence. Don't repeat your self!
Sexual perversions are based on lies so why wouldn't the sexual deviants lie? It's all part of their DNA. Homosexual "marriage" is not even marriage at all. It is a perversion of truth. The family is foundational to civilization and has been for centuries even befoe the writings of the Holy Scriptures. The Lord established family from the beginning. A homosexual "family" is not a family no matter how much the perverts lie to themselves and others about it. Homosexuality itself it is a lie against God's Truth.
Show me one scripture where Jesus defined marriage or the family…
Show me one scripture where Jesus defined marriage or the family…
Show me one scripture where Jesus defined marriage or the family…
Show me one scripture where Jesus defined marriage or the family…
Mark 3:31.
Mark 3:31.
It ends at Mark 3:35.
It ends at Mark 3:35.
Katherine,
I am thinking a bit more biologicallyl. He was speaking ideologically.
Ephisians 5:21-33
Dennis Fowler …Exodus 20…"Honor your father and mother"…."Do not covet your neighbor's wife"…."Do not commit adultry"… Jesus is Lord and God. What was spoken by God in the Bible are His words also.
Notice God did not say…father and father or mother and mother. Elsewhere homosexuality is condemned and it is foolish and blasphemous to suggest God accepts homosexuality or perverted marriage.
Luke chapter 20…" Some of the Sadducees, who say there is no resurrection, came to Jesus with a question. “Teacher,” they said, “Moses wrote for us that if a man’s brother dies and leaves a wife but no children, the man must marry the widow and raise up offspring for his brother. Now there were seven brothers. The first one married a woman and died childless. The second and then the third married her, and in the same way the seven died, leaving no children. Finally, the woman died too. Now then, at the resurrection whose wife will she be, since the seven were married to her?”
Jesus replied, “The people of this age marry and are given in marriage. But those who are considered worthy of taking part in the age to come and in the resurrection from the dead will neither marry nor be given in marriage, and they can no longer die; for they are like the angels. They are God’s children, since they are children of the resurrection. But in the account of the burning bush, even Moses showed that the dead rise, for he calls the Lord ‘the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob.’ He is not the God of the dead, but of the living, for to him all are alive.”
Dennis Fowler ..Now I have a question for you. Romans chapter 1. "The Gospel is the power of God for the salvation of everyone who believes."
The Gospel is the blood sacrifice of Christ on the cross for your sins, the death of Christ on the Cross for your sins, and the resurrection of Christ from the dead to justify you before God the Father.
Do you believe this?
Sexual perversions are based on lies so why wouldn't the sexual deviants lie? It's all part of their DNA. Homosexual "marriage" is not even marriage at all. It is a perversion of truth. The family is foundational to civilization and has been for centuries even befoe the writings of the Holy Scriptures. The Lord established family from the beginning. A homosexual "family" is not a family no matter how much the perverts lie to themselves and others about it. Homosexuality itself it is a lie against God's Truth.
People who believe marriage is for a man and a woman are not a hate group.
People who believe marriage is for a man and a woman are not a hate group.
some one should sue Joe Moron for discrimination. What if a alderman blocked Home Depot from opening up a store because they support gay marriage and give to groups that actively support gay marriage.
He's using his polical position to hold a business owner hostage until said business owner conforms to Mr. Moreno's idea of what is right (AKA social justice). The US Constitution gives Mr. Cathy (AND Mr. Moreno) the right of free speech, as well as the freedom to believe what each wants to believe. Mr. Moreno holding up legislation in order to keep Chick Fil A from expanding sounds like extortion to me. Last time I looked, extortion is a felony…
some one should sue Joe Moron for discrimination. What if a alderman blocked Home Depot from opening up a store because they support gay marriage and give to groups that actively support gay marriage.
Moreno is violating the Bill of Rights and should be thrown out of office.
It seems in today's world, if you don't support a cause, you are automatically "branded"! I feel that as an adult, I can disagree with someone, but NOT hate the person who does support it. Whatever happened to just strictly having a different opinion? That's not hating, folks, just a difference of opinion.
Mr Moreno's actions and statements regarding this issue should be disturbing to everyone. It should not be part of the business permit process to satisfy the particular preferences of an elected official. This is really serious and should totally obscure any discussion of the views and practices of Mr Cathy and/or the CHickFilA organization.
In the context of being a liberal, it's "self-evident" (to use Jay Carney's words) that, if you disagree with anything they espouse, you are a hater. They obviously don't think anyone should disagree with them.
I think we should take tax exempt status away from churches.
Okay? Who cares what you think?
Does anybody really care what anybody else thinks? I think not.
Moren. You are a FRICKING liar you gay loving piece of crap gays are sick
Nothing hatex like a bunch of degenerate homoNazi hate pigs. They hate decent people who will not celebrate the perversion of homosexuality, they hate Christians, Jews and all other religious people who follow GOD's law, not the laws from the democRAT bathhouse, they simply hate. All they have to offer is hate, lies, hypocrisy and sexual perversion.
MY IQ dropped 20 points while reading this. Westboro has empty room in their pews….. hint, hint.
HAHAHAHAHAHA
Dennis…Couldn't have dropped that much. You can't have a negative IQ!
Dennis Fowler Not possibly as you IQ was below 20 to begin with. Actually a pair of hate pigs like you and fred would make a good team. Kill each other and make the world a better place.
Dennis Fowler Not possibly as you IQ was below 20 to begin with. Actually a pair of hate pigs like you and fred would make a good team. Kill each other and make the world a better place.
Guy Molde dennis is without a doubt, a pure fool.
Guy Molde dennis is without a doubt, a pure fool.
easy to take punches when you are a mob…
What "these people" don't get is that no one is so much boycotting CFA, as they just care where their money goes. I could care less what people think, I mean, I may think it's backwards but whatever. I have always known the owner wasn't a fan of gay rights, and I still ate there. But, when I found out substantial amounts of money were being donated to what I consider hate groups (trying to deny gay couples from adopting, marrying, etc.), that's when it became a problem for me. And I don't care who eats there. But, I did think "that day" was http://www.meandmine.org/2012/the-dumbest-fucking-day-in-america/
What "these people" don't get is that no one is so much boycotting CFA, as they just care where their money goes. I could care less what people think, I mean, I may think it's backwards but whatever. I have always known the owner wasn't a fan of gay rights, and I still ate there. But, when I found out substantial amounts of money were being donated to what I consider hate groups (trying to deny gay couples from adopting, marrying, etc.), that's when it became a problem for me. And I don't care who eats there. But, I did think "that day" was http://www.meandmine.org/2012/the-dumbest-fucking-day-in-america/
Guy Molde
He'd be the first. Call the Guiness Book of World Records!
So, in the simple mind of the libtard; if you support one group then you must, by default, 'hate' the other group! How pathetic! This is the same stupid illogical rhetoric you hear constantly from the leftest when anyone criticizes their beloved Obama or his policies!
So, in the simple mind of the libtard; if you support one group then you must, by default, 'hate' the other group! How pathetic! This is the same stupid illogical rhetoric you hear constantly from the leftest when anyone criticizes their beloved Obama or his policies!
Has everyone noticed that Dennie Fowl(temp)er has not made an original post to this article. He's just disagreeing with everyone else. He reminds me of the Argument Clinic sketch from Monty Python!
Devils advocate, why not. I love labels, lol.
Devils advocate, why not. I love labels, lol.
Devils advocate, why not. I love labels, lol.
Devils advocate, why not. I love labels, lol.
Devils advocate, why not. I love labels, lol.
Devils advocate, why not. I love labels, lol.
Devils advocate, why not. I love labels, lol.
Devils advocate, why not. I love labels, lol.
Devils advocate, why not. I love labels, lol.
If you met me in real life, you'd love my ideology, no really, you would…
If he did, you would have one friend.
"acquaintance"
Dennis Fowler there is no possible way on this planet, in this lifetime that a normal person could like your ideolgy. you sir are a heathen, and truly, you are the devils advocate. bet that makes you proud huh?
"We are still bigots, leave us to our hate!" it's only a matter of time before money talks and they're going to go back on their barbaric stance. The Christians always ate there, but they've now lost many women (myself and all my friends) and the gay community. Once they see it effects revenue, they'll change their stance. Because as we all know, if it's one thing religious nutcases like these morons love more than hating their fellow Americans, it's money.
Please understand that God haters will always accuse God fearing people as haters no matter what they do or don't do.
Please understand that God haters will always accuse God fearing people as haters no matter what they do or don't do.
Sounds like the government officials in Chicago are bullies. Either you donate to their causes or you "Hate" them because you do not support them. Shame on them. We, s Americans have the right to donate to whichever cause we want to. How dare they try to Shame Chick fil…No wonder people relate Chicago to a gangster town.
Julia hit the nail on the head. Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. The gay minority would like us to believe that somehow Chic-fil-a is hates gays and must bow to their demands, while in the same breath we straight majority can't give to whatever charity we want without being mioslabeled as hateful paople. You gay folks really need to get a life. Go back into the closet from which you came and stop bothering us straight folks with your hate nonesense.
AMEN i'll drink to that
AMEN i'll drink to that
At the end of the day ChickFilA is a business and it will do whatever it can to make a buck, apart from being open on Sunday.
When the dems vowed to boycott the business they caused the single biggest day of commerce in history. Democrats policies can't help the economy but maybe they can boycott us into prosperity
When the dems vowed to boycott the business they caused the single biggest day of commerce in history. Democrats policies can't help the economy but maybe they can boycott us into prosperity
When the dems vowed to boycott the business they caused the single biggest day of commerce in history. Democrats policies can't help the economy but maybe they can boycott us into prosperity
When the dems vowed to boycott the business they caused the single biggest day of commerce in history. Democrats policies can't help the economy but maybe they can boycott us into prosperity
When the dems vowed to boycott the business they caused the single biggest day of commerce in history. Democrats policies can't help the economy but maybe they can boycott us into prosperity
When the dems vowed to boycott the business they caused the single biggest day of commerce in history. Democrats policies can't help the economy but maybe they can boycott us into prosperity
When the dems vowed to boycott the business they caused the single biggest day of commerce in history. Democrats policies can't help the economy but maybe they can boycott us into prosperity
When the dems vowed to boycott the business they caused the single biggest day of commerce in history. Democrats policies can't help the economy but maybe they can boycott us into prosperity
When the dems vowed to boycott the business they caused the single biggest day of commerce in history. Democrats policies can't help the economy but maybe they can boycott us into prosperity
Last time I checked, Chick fil a still has a right to their beliefs, and do with their money what they prefer. The gay rights supporters have a right to their opinion, why can't Mr. Cathy?
IKR
All they are doing is harming others because they don't like their opinions, chik-fil-a and everyone who works there and who may get a job at a new expansion in the future is getting hurt by them. They just need to accept that others have their opinions and get on with their lives, not everyone will have the same opinion as them.
thought I was going to get to eat there. guess not ;A;.
thought I was going to get to eat there. guess not ;A;.
Homos will (and do) swallow anything…
I personally love the taste of a Chik-Fil-A sandwich, especially with the hot sauce! and it tastes even better knowing they stand up for chrisitan values and decency. I wish all businesses to have the same values. the ones this country was FOUNDED on. but somehow, we lost our way and caved in to idiotic fringe groups that try to bully the majority with their ridiculous sob stories. WAKE UP AMERICANS AND TAKE THIS COUNTRY BACK! before it is too late.
TRANSLATION for those who speak "Christian": "Don't worry; we will continue to use the Bible to excuse our hatred of Gay people and blame it on God".
TRANSLATION for those who don't: "Don't worry; we're still religious bigots–but Capitalism is more important when it really comes down to "God" vs "Money".
So what is this then? From Chik-Fil-A's own mouth…"Going forward, our intent is to leave the policy debate over same-sex marriage to the government and political arena."
http://www.facebook.com/ChickfilA/posts/10151226208515101
Now I'm craving Chik Fil A. Looks like I've got dinner plans!
Dan Cathy is NOT an innocent guy. This despicable bastard has contributed millions of dollars to vicious homophobic organizations like Americans for truth about homosexuality(which does nothing but tell lies about it), the American Family Organization and the Family Research Council.
The organizations are nOT "pro-family". The are pro- BIGOTRY!
I "hate" that people are are drifting away from GOD! Just look at the reality of our nation, the more we take God out of or lives, the worst crime, and bad things are happening…even a fool can see this! I serve God, I abide by the Bible, and no person or government will make me do other wise! Everyone, once they die, will meet God weather they believe or not.