Sep 20, 2012
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The Obama campaign’s redesign of the American flag has generated a firestorm of controversy across the nation after the 50 stars were replaced with the president’s campaign logo. But experts in American flag etiquette said there’s one problem with Obama’s American flag – it’s not an American flag.
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Joe Davis, with the Veterans of Foreign Wars, said it may resemble the flag of the country but “it is not.”
“The U.S. Flag today has 50 white stars in a blue field and seven red and six white stripes,” he said. “The flag at issue has no stars and only five red and four white stripes.”
“As far as the American Legion is concerned, it is not a flag,” said John Raughter, the communications director for the American Legion. “It’s political art.”
And while the Obama flag poster may be considered by some to be in poor taste — it is not in violation of the U.S. Flag Code — because it does not meet the standards of being an American flag.
The United States of Obama?
Obama’s version of the American flag is featured in two posters designed by artists Ross Bruggink and Dan Olson and offered for sale on the campaign website.
“Our Stripes: Flag Print” replaces the 50 stars in a blue field with the president’s giant “O” campaign logo.
The Obama campaign offered an explanation of the poster early this morning on the social networking site Twitter.
“A poster to say there are no red states or blue states, only the United States,” the campaign tweeted.
So if Obama’s version of the American flag is not an American flag, what is it?
“It’s political art,” Raughter told Fox News.
And as such he said it was up to the general public to determine if it was offensive.
And based on comments left on social networking sites like Twitter and Facebook – the overwhelming consensus is it’s offensive.
“I don’t know why I’m shocked, but I am,” wrote one Fox News reader. “This stoops to new lows.”
Another reader offered this assessment: “One again, very shameful. This is a disgrace. Just what was wrong with the flag with the stars and stripes? Why must Obama create his own flag?”
“A good number of my family, including me and my twin sons, has served under the flag,” another wrote. “This is far beyond insulting. I can’t imagine anyone who considers themselves a patriot voting for Obama. Who does he think he is?”
The flag posters are being sold for $35 – along with Obama yoga pants, Obama martini glasses and coffee mugs emblazoned with his birth certificate.
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Oh, whoop-de-doo. THere are dozens of flags and flag-like emblems out there. Why don't you folks protest those who keep using the Confederate flag as a sign of their continuing racism, instead?
Good grief, its just a freaking poster with a "look a like" theme. It might not be in the best taste to some, but as with any other art…. take it or leave it. It doesn't mean that its trying to replace Old Glory.. grow up people. Do you not have anything more serious to consider in your lives? If you don't like it, don't use it. Jeez, its like a vegetable you don't like on your plate. Its there, but you surely don't have to eat it.
"…upon which shall be shown the colors, the stars and the stripes, in ANY NUMBER of either thereof, or of any part or parts of either, by which the AVERAGE PERSON seeing the same WITHOUT DELIBERATION may believe the same to represent the flag…"
4 USC § 3.
ain't it a shame– first 57 states– now this—what next?
http://www.cafepress.co.uk/mf/4849677/gop-flag_tshirt
I usually don't post in these forums because people who do are usually NOT informed and are only going long with propaganda…If folks would do their research they would see that this is a NEW Version of a story that has been out since Pres. Obama was a senator. Check the facts, neither plane was Air Force One. Both planeswere planes he leased with his campaign funds…While you are checking, check on John MCCain's campaign plane..he removed the American flag from his plane, while Pres. Obama did not. On the other side was still the American Flag…I do NOT post things other folk say without researching issues myself, esp. when it involves a country where I reside. Come on now, do you really think he can remove the Amrrican Flag off AirForce One? He can't get a simple bill passed because of Gridlock..so how the heck can he remove a flag and it's not on ebvery single newstation or media outlet..Come on people use your brains if you can't remember American Govt. 101, l or did the majority of you even go to school?
I can't get your link to open, so I'm not sure about what the story is. Is it supposedly on the plane he's using? I do know that he is using this re designed flag, I don't know about on his plane. My understanding is that he is not trying to officially change the flag, but this is some kind of design used in his campagin. I do understand why many Americans, especially vets. wouldnt like that. Even if its just some kind of campagine logo, people feel strongly about their flag. I don't think it is in good taste.
Hey Connie..it is for his campaign as a fundraiser..It is NOT to replace the American Flag. it is now on sale for $35. It is NOT displayed on Air Force One. BTW, when John McCain ran for pres. he replaced the American flag with his own. While Pres. Obama, has the American Flag on the other side of the tail. But of course, Fox News and other right winged outlets will not report this. Pres. Obama can't get anything passed in Congress because of gridlock.. so I ask how can he get Congress to okay him changing the flag??? NOT gonna happen!!! This is not his intent, nor was it ever. This story was first circulated in 2008 and now it's popped up again because of the campaign. If you look up Abe Lincoln's campaign flag, you will find them quite similar. I( can't believe folks don't know the basics of simple American Govt. 101, better yet..Jr. High Social Studies.
I know what you mean. I hate to see so much division. We need to feel united as a country even if the two parties do have different views. They pretty much always have. I hate what election years do to this country, it just seems to get worse each time. The real troublemakers to me is the media. Liberal or conservitave, they just want to stir the pot and try to make a story to "report" about. I wish government classes were stressed more in school. Most kids just aren't that interested in it at that age, then later you have a whole bunch of people running around able to vote, but with no idea how it all really works. A news medias dream come true.
I usually don't post in these forums because people who do are usually NOT informed and are only going long with propaganda…If folks would do their research they would see that this is a NEW Version of a story that has been out since Pres. Obama was a senator. Check the facts, neither plane was Air Force One. Both planeswere planes he leased with his campaign funds…While you are checking, check on John MCCain's campaign plane..he removed the American flag from his plane, while Pres. Obama did not. On the other side was still the American Flag…I do NOT post things other folk say without researching issues myself, esp. when it involves a country where I reside. Come on now, do you really think he can remove the Amrrican Flag off AirForce One? He can't get a simple bill passed because of Gridlock..so how the heck can he remove a flag and it's not on ebvery single newstation or media outlet..Come on people use your brains if you can't remember American Govt. 101, l or did the majority of you even go to school?
Hopefully the election will solve this regrettable situation…
I THINK U GUYS A NUTS TO BELIEVE HE WOULD EVEN THINK ABOUT THIS PLEASE BE REAL NO ONE IS GOING TO CHANGE OUR FLAG! JUST A BUNCH OF PROPAGANDA.
I THINK U GUYS A NUTS TO BELIEVE HE WOULD EVEN THINK ABOUT THIS PLEASE BE REAL NO ONE IS GOING TO CHANGE OUR FLAG! JUST A BUNCH OF PROPAGANDA.
http://www.snopes.com/politics/obama/photos/campaignflag.asp
Very interesting
I guess this was OK: http://www.4president.org/image/2004/bushcheney04.gif
the US flag isn't the US flag anymore!
I back the VFW 100% with there stance. I am the commander of my post and a lot of vets are not ok with this.
It IS ok because they didn't disgrace the American Flag by putting their own personal symbol to replace what our flag stands for. Using the flag design is not bad if you don't change its meaning!!!
I guess this was OK: http://www.4president.org/image/2004/bushcheney04.gif
Apparently, the flag posters have been removed from the Obama website. At least the following two links, which used to work, now lead to a "404 not found" error:
https://store.barackobama.com/obama-2012-store-essentials/obama-2012-store-new-products/our-stripes-country-print.html
https://store.barackobama.com/obama-2012-store-collections/artists-for-obama/our-stripes-flag-print.html
Apparently, the flag posters have been removed from the Obama website. At least the following two links, which used to work, now lead to a "404 not found" error:
https://store.barackobama.com/obama-2012-store-essentials/obama-2012-store-new-products/our-stripes-country-print.html
https://store.barackobama.com/obama-2012-store-collections/artists-for-obama/our-stripes-flag-print.html
Suppose because it's not a flag, some one would go to jail for burning it? There are rules against open burning of trash.
Wake Up America
Wake Up America
How Dare u Obama!!!!!!!!
Fox News? Oh, c'Mon! Lol
It WAS on Obama's website – strangely, after all the backlash, it's been removed. Gee, wonder why.
Please people, this is political art, not a desecration of the flag. Even the VFW says it does not bear enough resemblance to the actual flag to be a miss treatment of the flag. Just political art. It's been around for decades.
PS. Fox news is entertainment, not news.
Hey Dan, CSNBC is political entertainment at its' worst! Be careful posting your personal opinion as fact.
How 'bout this one flying from a Democratic Headquarters until some Vets had a fit .. MSNBC… not FOX… http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/15/10702389-obamas-image-on-american-flag-angers-vets?lite
How 'bout this one flying from a Democratic Headquarters until some Vets had a fit .. MSNBC… not FOX… http://usnews.nbcnews.com/_news/2012/03/15/10702389-obamas-image-on-american-flag-angers-vets?lite
You people are all retarded. it is his political campaign symbol NOT a replacement of the american flag. The fact that there is actually an article about this is completely ridiculous.