A Virginia lawmaker is calling on the Air Force to reverse a decision to remove a Latin reference to “God” from a logo after an atheist group complained.
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Rep. Randy Forbes, (R-VA), said the Air Force removed the logo several weeks ago from the Rapid Capabilities Office. The patch included a line written in Latin that read, “Doing God’s Work with Other People’s Money.”
But after the Military Association of Atheists and Freethinkers complained, Forbes said the line was rewritten in Latin to read, “Doing Miracles with Other People’s Money.”
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Forbes, along with a bi-partisan group of 35 lawmakers, sent a letter to Air Force Secretary Michael Donley and Air Force Chief of Staff Norton Schwartz expressing concern over the decision to remove a non-religious reference to God.
“It is most egregious,” Forbes told Fox News. “The Air Force is taking the tone that you can’t even use the word ‘God.’”
Forbes said his office contacted the Air Force and officials there confirmed that the logo had been changed after the atheist group complained.
A spokesman for the Air Force told Fox News they had received the letter and would investigate the claims.
Forbes said the removal of “God” is a “bridge too far in terms of the rights of men and women who serve in our services and their ability to express their faith.”
“But the significance of this is what the Air Force is saying with this move – that the word ‘God’ – whether it has any reference to faith or not, can’t be used in the Air Force,” Forbes said.
He said the incident is one of several in recent months that have caused him to wonder if the military is cleansing itself of religious references.
“It’s a very dangerous course to take,” he said.
“I am concerned that the RCO capitulated to pressure from an outside group that consistently seeks to remove references to God and faith in our military,” he said. ‘The RCO’s action to modify the logo sets a dangerous precedent that all references to God, regardless of context, must be removed from the military.”
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religion is the biggest disease on our planet….if god does exist then he created the devil and all his desires…
I suppose that the next thing they will cry about is the existence of Chaplains in the military. "Well Chaplain, We're sorry, but their is a small group of people who are offended by you so we are doing away with the Chaplain Corps". Christians need to get some backbone! "The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations THAT FORGET God." Psalm 9:17.
WTF! PLEASE RE-POST! It is a shame that we have come to this.
Thank GOD, this imaginary "being" is no longer used as Christian brainwashing. Using the word "God" implies that everyone believes in a religious concept -or- to simply accept it as a universal belief. Keep religious overtones to yourself!
Funny how freedom of religion only applies to those that have none lately.
The Atheists offend ME! So who do I complain to?
Jeff I agree…true story: when my daughter was a senior in high school, she was a "hugger" to the students who were mentally disabled. Just before Easter they went to a Kindergarten class but were given new instructions by the HS Staff, as follows: "A parent of a K-child is offended by the practice of Easter and therefore you must use terms such as: "Spring Celebration" "The Big Bunny" etc. but no mention of Easter, Resurrection, Christ or so on." The parent of a 5 year old is offended so you must jump through the following hoops. A minority of (1) against a majority of hundreds. Why? Political Correctness? Is PC the same as Socialism? I read somewhere they started it in this country. God Help Us.
I am god and will smite all who believe in me.
Care to clarify?
in God we trust is what has made the united states the country it is, we are loseing freedom of speech, freedom of what we are allowed to believe in, so everyone wants to come here because of how great we are as a country, well it is becoming less and less all the time, go back where you come from if you don't like it here and how and what we stand for.don't come here trying to make it the country you just left, so sick of hearing all the stupid garbage, and as for our presidents , I thought bullying was against the law, and that is all they are doing to each other, good Job, way to go, showing our children the way to bully, you all are really someone to stand up to, what have we become.
Jeff Tarr, good going little buddy! I grew up believing in Jesus just as you did. Even though Jesus was a Jew, to me it doesn't matter what color he was because I don't see color as some do. The fellow below Manu Sharma, was trying to pull a race card as most of that race does or so it seems that was what he was trying to do, is right about what he said. But Jesus was not black either! Most people from the middle east are not black, however there are a few that were simply because at one time or another they were slaves to the kings of those nations way back in the time of Jesus. I love what you said here Jeff and the time for true Americans to stand up for what we believe in is coming soon and I'll be there right by your side holding your hand and saying my prayers to God right along with you when they do what they're going to do to us. I will never bend to their ways nor will I ever allow them to tear down my life and force me to believe in Satan as the Muslims do!
Fine! Just send all the Christian and God believers back home and let the gays and atheists go to war in Iraq and Afghanistan and probably Iran.
Yet more signs of the dire times that are laying in waitbf
Sorry about the typos, my phone is a POS. Anyways there are signs everywhere of the dire times mankind is entering
God has always blessed this Country.When we invite God out of our Country as we are now doing He will leave and stop blessing the USA. I beleive what we see happening to America is evidence that God is not blessing our Country anymore. We are in decline and I beleive it is because we are telling HGim to go away.
The problem with the military theses days is you have a bunch of yes men Generals running the military. They're more concerned with their career, than what is good for the country and the service. Shame on them. This move along with allowing servicemen to march in Gay parades makes me ill. They're an embarrasment to all those who have served.
Why do we as Christians get so upset if GOD is taken off any badge, building etc. HE is living in our hearts! Our actions reveal GOD not his name.
Fuck atheists. Time to go beat the shit and throw them out. YES. Physical violence. It has come to that. F this passive, nice guy pussy shit. Beat the shit out of these jackoff liberals.
that's for sure the day we cant even say we believe in the biblical definition of marriage without having someone like Rahm Emanual throw a fit then its time God did something to show this country how foolish we have become.
AS an ex-Air Force member I am ashamed at what this once proud branch of the service has become.
AS an ex-Air Force member I am ashamed at what this once proud branch of the service has become.
how many atheists are in the military? how many have served and put their lives on the line and/or died for this country. I ask the media to investigate and find this out for if none, then they don't have a say and who made them law anyway? Why is the govt so afraid of these people, it's God they should be afraid of for taking his name of everything in this country. How many atheists are Gay? You believe in what you believe in but one thing you people won't do is take away the fact that ONE NATION UNDER GOD, that means this nation was built as ONE NATION UNDER GOD. I can not believe this govt is falling under these people, the same goes for the language, ENGLISH that is what this country was founded under and your wanting to change it? People remember all of this and come election time lets get some men/women in there that will restore this country back to the country we use to know it. GOD BLESS AMERICA, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME, ALL THE TIME GOD IS GOOD.
how many atheists are in the military? how many have served and put their lives on the line and/or died for this country. I ask the media to investigate and find this out for if none, then they don't have a say and who made them law anyway? Why is the govt so afraid of these people, it's God they should be afraid of for taking his name of everything in this country. How many atheists are Gay? You believe in what you believe in but one thing you people won't do is take away the fact that ONE NATION UNDER GOD, that means this nation was built as ONE NATION UNDER GOD. I can not believe this govt is falling under these people, the same goes for the language, ENGLISH that is what this country was founded under and your wanting to change it? People remember all of this and come election time lets get some men/women in there that will restore this country back to the country we use to know it. GOD BLESS AMERICA, ONE NATION UNDER GOD, GOD IS GOOD ALL THE TIME, ALL THE TIME GOD IS GOOD.
When I was in the US Service. I worked , prayed and fought under God. I also know that are no atheist in a fox hole when in combat!
We are headed for distruction ~ One liberty at a time…
The atheist want it changed to "Doing Miracles with Other People’s Money". Don't they know who is in the miracle business. GOD!
If I may quote Mr. Billy Graham, " our society strives to avoid any possibility of offending anyone-except God. Yet the farther we get from God! The more the world spirals out of control."
After reading this about the Air Force removing God from its logo my first thought honestly was fear, followed by sadness. I agree with what Mr. Graham said and honestly if America continues down this path of removing God from everything it's opening up the door for more attacks on our forefront folks. There is so much more I could type in response to this but I honestly think the most important thing we can all do is pray. Pray for this country folks. This is so important. God is in control. Even when things like this happen, he is still in control yet as a Christian in response to this I know I am to pray for this country. Please folks, join me.
I repeatedly read and hear of our country turning into a nation of cowards. Like the days of Madaline O'Hare, all it takes is a couple loud mouth atheists to crank out a tantrum like brain dead 5 yr. old's and those in authority grovel and start licking boots. And we wonder why America is going down the toilet bowl so fast. Turn your back on God and all you can expect is Satan's mercy. Guess what. He doesn't have any. Moral of the story: America is proving that it's too stupid to last much longer.
Who cares what the athiest want. I served proudly in the USAF. Who do these jerks think they are and now the Air Force jumps to them. This country is going down the toliet.
Alex wright = the PROBLEM!
Okay, let's discuss Jesus the Man. There is no dispute He walked this earth, and everything He said and did is relevant still today! He was an amazing Man. So for you atheists you have to at least admit, He was brilliant, or that four different guys at different times made up an incredibly similar story about this Man 2000 years ago! These stories managed to be passed down, and then written down, and only suggest peace and love. What do you have to complain about non-believers? I can only suggest we could follow a worse leader of a Man! Regards.
I'm pretty sure jesus wouldn't be bombing the hell out of people. the military does not represent the beliefs of christ, thou shalt not KILL. it an institution you cannot leave, are not free, are expected to kill in the name of a politician, the government pays your wage, puts a roof over your head and OWNS YOU. this country was great before the vietnam war, but since it's become a military dominated country consumed with bigotry and fear it does not deserve the badge of "God", not on it's institutions and not on it's money.
I'm pretty sure jesus wouldn't be bombing the hell out of people. the military does not represent the beliefs of christ, thou shalt not KILL. it an institution you cannot leave, are not free, are expected to kill in the name of a politician, the government pays your wage, puts a roof over your head and OWNS YOU. this country was great before the vietnam war, but since it's become a military dominated country consumed with bigotry and fear it does not deserve the badge of "God", not on it's institutions and not on it's money.
I'm pretty sure jesus wouldn't be bombing the hell out of people. the military does not represent the beliefs of christ, thou shalt not KILL. it an institution you cannot leave, are not free, are expected to kill in the name of a politician, the government pays your wage, puts a roof over your head and OWNS YOU. this country was great before the vietnam war, but since it's become a military dominated country consumed with bigotry and fear it does not deserve the badge of "God", not on it's institutions and not on it's money.
An American is English…or French, or Italian, Irish, German, Spanish, Polish, Russian or Greek. An American may also be African, Indian, Chinese, Japanese, Australian, Iranian, Asian, or Arab, or Pakistani, or Afghan. An American is Christian, or he could be Jewish, or Buddhist, or Muslim. In fact, there are more Muslims in America than in Afghanistan. The only difference is that in America they are free to worship as each of them choose. An American is also free to believe in no religion. For that he will answer only to God, not to the government, or to armed thugs claiming to speak for the government and for God. An American is from the most prosperous land in the history of the world. The root of that prosperity can be found in the Declaration of Independence, which recognizes the God-given right of each man and woman to the pursuit of happiness. An American is generous. Americans have helped out just about every other nation in the world in their time of need. When Afghanistan was overrun by the Soviet army 20 years ago, Americans came with arms and supplies to enable the people to win back their country. As of the morning of September 11, Americans had given more than any other nation to the poor in Afghanistan. An American does not have to obey the mad ravings of ignorant, ungodly cruel, old men. American men will not be fooled into giving up their lives to kill innocent people, so that these foolish old men may hold on to power. American women are free to show their beautiful faces to the world, as each of them choose. An American is free to criticise his government's officials when they are wrong, in his or her own opinion. Then he is free to replace them, by majority vote. Americans welcome people from all lands, all cultures, all religions, because they are not afraid. They are not afraid that their history, their religion, their beliefs, will be overrun, or forgotten. That is because they know they are free to hold to their religion, their beliefs, their history, as each of them choose. And just as Americans welcome all, they enjoy the best that everyone has to bring, from all over the world. The best science, the best technology, the best products, the best books, the best music, the best food, the best athletes. Americans welcome the best, but they also welcome the least. The nation symbol of America welcomes your tired and your poor, the wretched refuse of your teeming shores, the homeless, tempest tossed. These in fact are the people who built America. Many of them were working in the twin towers on the morning of September 11, earning a better life for their families. So you can try to kill an American if you must. Hitler did. So did General Tojo and Stalin and Mao Tse-Tung, and every bloodthirsty tyrant in the history of the world. But in doing so you would just be killing yourself. Because Americans are not a particular people from a particular place. They are the embodiment of the human spirit of freedom. Everyone who holds to that spirit, everywhere, is an American. So look around you. You may find more Americans in your land than you thought were there. One day they will rise up and overthrow the old, ignorant, tired tyrants that trouble too many lands. Then those lands too will join the community of free and prosperous nations. And America will welcome them.
We are becoming a nation of cowards. We cave in the second someone cries racism, we disreguard our border laws so we don't hurt ppl's feelings, and now we are removing God from our country even though this country and almost everything in it was based off of christanity. We should NOT be changing our country for anyone. This is why our country is going to he** and we have Obama and the rest of the bleeding heart libTARDS to thank.
So you atheists get offended by God so no one can say it? Well I do believe in God and it offends me that He is being taken out of everything in this country, but its ok to offend Christians? Sounds like another fantastic idea made by our hypocritical government we call "democracy."
At some point the majority needs to tell the minority to pack it in, leave town, and force their political correctness on someone who really gives a hoot! We have been bending over for every little crackpot that comes along and at some point it has got to stop. I could go on, but GOD forbid I might hurt someone's feelings.
It has to stop!!!!!!!!!!!
All yall realize this is inline with Jesus' teachings right? When He said, "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" I think He was being pretty straight forward with what He meant.
All yall realize this is inline with Jesus' teachings right? When He said, "Render unto Caesar the things which are Caesar's, and unto God the things that are God's" I think He was being pretty straight forward with what He meant.
I'm an agnostic and I think it's just plain stupid for the Air Force to bow down to some whiny atheists. In my view, whiny atheist groups like this who get offended by anything they perceive as 'offensive' about god or faith are just as annoying as overbearing Christians who impose religion.
The reality of it is that for the most part, the majority of Christians and atheists alike really don't concern themselves with things like this… but unfortunately, the idiots of both groups always tend to be the loudest amongst them as a whole.
I'm an agnostic and I think it's just plain stupid for the Air Force to bow down to some whiny atheists. In my view, whiny atheist groups like this who get offended by anything they perceive as 'offensive' about god or faith are just as annoying as overbearing Christians who impose religion.
The reality of it is that for the most part, the majority of Christians and atheists alike really don't concern themselves with things like this… but unfortunately, the idiots of both groups always tend to be the loudest amongst them as a whole.
Next attack? Don't worry, be happy, God IS keeping score. What military leadership?
And GOD just removed the Air Force from His divine protection.
And GOD just removed the Air Force from His divine protection.
Why can't people see that by protecting diversity we're eliminating it? The goal is make every place in the world look exactly like every other place, like a global Crackle Barrel. Whatever happened to partisan news, individuality, and freedom? You want diversity? Make sure it's visible, untouched by laws and regulation, and integration contamination.
Who gives a crap what Athiests think or feel, they don't care how the rest of us think or feel. Tell them this "build a bridge and get over it!" Then shut the hell up!
Rediculous There is a God and by removing that word you are disgracing our country all because a few people are being rediculous.
Joshua Williams, you have taken a quote out of this Treaty (written in 1797 between the U.S. & a Muslim nation) completely out of context as a means to confirm your thoughts & belief based on presupposition. If you must post, please research the matter completely prior to commenting. In addition, Article 11 was removed 8 years later. (read more at: http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/tripoli.htm) Unlike England, France and others of that era who were fighting wars based on "religion'… America was NOT MANDATING it's citizens be associated with any specific or Universal NATIONAL religion. Americans were guaranteed Freedom of Religion in the BILL OF RIGHTS. (Please note: it does not state Freedom of NO Religion since one does not need to have a Law allowing them to NOT do something unless one lives under a Dictatorship or similar form of Government such as the other countries were).
http://thesteadyconservative.com/wordpress/2011/12/16/revisionism-of-1797-treaty-of-tripoli/comment-page-1/
Wendy, thanks for sharing!
Wendy, thanks for sharing!
thanks Rod Juett, statements such as this person made simply result in the back & forth comments (usually accompanied by undertones of hatred) seen in this lengthy post. It is sad that so many are swayed by his rantings based on deceptive twisting or spinning of words.
Joshua Williams, you have taken a quote out of this Treaty (written in 1797 between the U.S. & a Muslim nation) completely out of context as a means to confirm your thoughts & belief based on presupposition. If you must post, please research the matter completely prior to commenting. In addition, Article 11 was removed 8 years later. (read more at: http://candst.tripod.com/tnppage/tripoli.htm) Unlike England, France and others of that era who were fighting wars based on "religion'… America was NOT MANDATING it's citizens be associated with any specific or Universal NATIONAL religion. Americans were guaranteed Freedom of Religion in the BILL OF RIGHTS. (Please note: it does not state Freedom of NO Religion since one does not need to have a Law allowing them to NOT do something unless one lives under a Dictatorship or similar form of Government such as the other countries were).
http://thesteadyconservative.com/wordpress/2011/12/16/revisionism-of-1797-treaty-of-tripoli/comment-page-1/
Removing the word "God" from constitution could be dangerous and bring judgement on the nations…..http://www.guessn.com/guessn/removing-the-word-god-from-constitution-could-be-dangerous-and-bring-judgement-on-the-nations.
No one will tell the Marines to re-write their Hymn. We believe in Heaven, and pray to God to protect our brothers and sisters. This is how it has always been and how it will always be. Semper Fi
right…because miracles have nothing to do with God. Does the government initiate a miracle?