Jason is joined by the host of the 'Gaines on Girls' podcast on Outkick, 12-time NCAA All-American swimmer and Independent Women’s Forum spokeswoman, Riley Gaines. They discuss her story from having her national championship taken away by transgender swimmer Lia Thomas. Plus, she reveals how athletes were silenced by the NCAA and why she eventually spoke out on the injustice.
On this episode, Will revisits an earlier conversation with commentator, author, and co-founder of Outsports and the National Gay Flag Football League, Cyd Zeigler, to have an open and honest debate on transgender athletes' place in the sports world. While recognizing their differences, the two search for a common path forward.