Todd Starnes, host of Fox News & Commentary and author of God Less America: Real Stories From the Front Lines of the Attack on Traditional Values debates Alan on whether God is really under attack in America. Starnes believes God in America is under attack by secular humanists. Starnes told Alan that the "creator" gives us our inalienable rights. According to Starnes, every time someone like Hitler came into power people lose their rights. The Nazi's forbid people from singing Christmas carols. on the issue of gay marriage, Todd agrees with Alan that the country is moving away from traditional marriage beliefs. Todd's issue with gay marriage is civil unions compared to marriage which he said is a "church ordained institution" Starnes told Alan that sooner or later gay rights groups will target churches.