(Audio) Dr. Ezeke Emanuel: Forget what you heard, Obamacare is great!! TalkJohn Gibson Mar 18, 2014 John Gibson sits down with the architect of Obamacare, Dr. Ezeke Emanuel. Gibson pressed the Dr. about why he thinks Obamacare will work when a majority of Americans HATE it. Emanuel did not back down. Take a Listen: Audio clip: Listen to audio clip.